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No, the pro is that is not supported by one of tech giants with infinite resources for the sole reason “to have larger footprint on the web”, basically to incre

by baxtr 9y ago

No, the pro is that is not supported by one of tech giants with infinite resources for the sole reason “to have larger footprint on the web”, basically to increase their spying capabilities across the web. Instead, vue was built by one guy, and it’s en par if not even better than react/angular.

ryanianian 9y ago
Spying? Conspiracy theory?
- baxtr 9y ago
  You’re right I should have called it “data collection approach to create a strategic advantage”
  - vertex-four 9y ago
    So exactly how does React collect data on your users?
efdee 9y ago
This is ridiculous. Please back up your claim that either Angular or React include literally any kind of spying capability whatsoever.
- dictum 9y ago
  You're not wrong, but I think the parent commenter touched a good point, just not in the most masterful way: using open source software from Facebook or Google increases their soft power over the web and Open Source in general. In the same way Google pretty much decides web standards these days (unless most other implementors refuse to back a proposed standard; even then, Chrome can keep supporting something), Facebook could end up deciding standards. The former with the browser, the latter with code that runs in the browser. Though Vue has more contributors now, that a single person could start and grow an open source project, with his own goals an opinions, shaping a community around certain principles, is something that appeals to me on philosophical and political grounds. By the way, until recently, the recommended way to get started with React (unless you were using a bundler, hosting it yourself or using another CDN) was to load it from fb.me, a Facebook-owned domain.
- baxtr 9y ago
  Ok, I realized, that I’ve used the wrong words. I’m sorry for that. What I meant: I believe big corporations like FB and Google do open source for a reason. A strategic reason. There are two that come to mind: (a) being able to push standards (like MS tried with IE). (b) usually these libraries are loaded from the respective companies’. It is possible that the loading data is then used to augment other data they have. In the end, both companies’ business models is based on data, only. Compare that with vue.

by baxtr 9y ago

ryanianian 9y ago

Spying? Conspiracy theory?

baxtr 9y ago
You’re right I should have called it “data collection approach to create a strategic advantage”
- vertex-four 9y ago
  So exactly how does React collect data on your users?

efdee 9y ago

This is ridiculous. Please back up your claim that either Angular or React include literally any kind of spying capability whatsoever.

dictum 9y ago
You're not wrong, but I think the parent commenter touched a good point, just not in the most masterful way: using open source software from Facebook or Google increases their soft power over the web and Open Source in general. In the same way Google pretty much decides web standards these days (unless most other implementors refuse to back a proposed standard; even then, Chrome can keep supporting something), Facebook could end up deciding standards. The former with the browser, the latter with code that runs in the browser. Though Vue has more contributors now, that a single person could start and grow an open source project, with his own goals an opinions, shaping a community around certain principles, is something that appeals to me on philosophical and political grounds. By the way, until recently, the recommended way to get started with React (unless you were using a bundler, hosting it yourself or using another CDN) was to load it from fb.me, a Facebook-owned domain.
baxtr 9y ago
Ok, I realized, that I’ve used the wrong words. I’m sorry for that. What I meant: I believe big corporations like FB and Google do open source for a reason. A strategic reason. There are two that come to mind: (a) being able to push standards (like MS tried with IE). (b) usually these libraries are loaded from the respective companies’. It is possible that the loading data is then used to augment other data they have. In the end, both companies’ business models is based on data, only. Compare that with vue.