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If you’re “mildly uncomfortable for a few days” then you don’t have the flu. And by not vaccinating, you’re putting others at risk who could die from it.

_0ffh 9y ago
Respectfully, I don't think it's helpful for you to tell me what I did or did not suffer from. Maybe we just have different standards of how uncomfortable different things are to us. (Yeah, it's different from a common cold.) Also, when I'm ill I naturally stay at home, and don't go out to sneeze or cough on people.
- mikeash 9y ago
  The period when you’re contagious doesn’t necessarily line up with the period when you feel bad.
  - _0ffh 9y ago
    I don't think you're supposed to be infectious for more than a week plus a couple of days at most. Admittedly, there is a short time window where you might be shedding while still asymptomatic. Still, as long as you keep your hands clean (which you should do anyways) and don't cough on people (which you won't if you're asymptomatic) and maybe refrain from shaking hands for a few extra days after having been ill the remaining risks are negligible. We're already entering regions of unlikelihood here where we're bordering on picking nits. You could just as well stand next to a road and yell at the drivers for gassing civilians.
    - mikeash 9y ago
      Considering that deaths from the flu are of similar magnitude to traffic fatalities, I’d say it’s more like yelling at drivers for running red lights, failing to yield to pedestrians, or changing lanes without looking, and justifying it on the basis that they’d rather deal with the occasional fender bender than take basic precautions.
wruza 9y ago
Adults of my local area never vaccinate from flu. Asian flu breakthrough killed few people last decade, but it had no treatment anyway. Seems that that “risk” statement contradicts with reality at least in one region. Not saying it is wrong in general, but something to think of.
- mikeash 9y ago
  What region is this where only a few people died from the flu in a decade? The annual death toll in the US is tens of thousands, so I have a hard time believing this.
  - wruza 9y ago
    I’ll reply in detail later this day, but shallow research says that I must be wrong. In short, 40% of Tatarstan adults are vaccinated (surprisingly; in “private companies” we never ever speak about that, nor do it). Death count is still unclear though, stats hard to find.

_0ffh 9y ago

Respectfully, I don't think it's helpful for you to tell me what I did or did not suffer from. Maybe we just have different standards of how uncomfortable different things are to us. (Yeah, it's different from a common cold.) Also, when I'm ill I naturally stay at home, and don't go out to sneeze or cough on people.

mikeash 9y ago
The period when you’re contagious doesn’t necessarily line up with the period when you feel bad.
- _0ffh 9y ago
  I don't think you're supposed to be infectious for more than a week plus a couple of days at most. Admittedly, there is a short time window where you might be shedding while still asymptomatic. Still, as long as you keep your hands clean (which you should do anyways) and don't cough on people (which you won't if you're asymptomatic) and maybe refrain from shaking hands for a few extra days after having been ill the remaining risks are negligible. We're already entering regions of unlikelihood here where we're bordering on picking nits. You could just as well stand next to a road and yell at the drivers for gassing civilians.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    Considering that deaths from the flu are of similar magnitude to traffic fatalities, I’d say it’s more like yelling at drivers for running red lights, failing to yield to pedestrians, or changing lanes without looking, and justifying it on the basis that they’d rather deal with the occasional fender bender than take basic precautions.

wruza 9y ago

Adults of my local area never vaccinate from flu. Asian flu breakthrough killed few people last decade, but it had no treatment anyway. Seems that that “risk” statement contradicts with reality at least in one region. Not saying it is wrong in general, but something to think of.

mikeash 9y ago
What region is this where only a few people died from the flu in a decade? The annual death toll in the US is tens of thousands, so I have a hard time believing this.
- wruza 9y ago
  I’ll reply in detail later this day, but shallow research says that I must be wrong. In short, 40% of Tatarstan adults are vaccinated (surprisingly; in “private companies” we never ever speak about that, nor do it). Death count is still unclear though, stats hard to find.