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Everything you install from the core debian stable repositories, is pretty much guaranteed to not have any actively malicious code. Otherwise it would be discov
by ploxiln 9y ago
Everything you install from the core debian stable repositories, is pretty much guaranteed to not have any actively malicious code. Otherwise it would be discovered and removed. All debian packages are signed by the package-upload process. It's not perfect, but it's been good enough so far. This is a world that is now niche, but used to be practical!
It's very depressing to be transitioning into a world where you can't use a small trusted open-source mail client and IM client etc, where you have to install crazy huge untrusted piles of flaky and inefficient code in order to interact with real-world people and institutions, and you can't easily control which version you have installed, and mobile devices become obsolete after just 3 years. (Even iPhones - not because of Apple, but because Instagram and Snapchat got too heavy/shitty for the older models! This does not happen for communication over SMTP or XMPP!)
So I see the "we need super sandboxes around every little thing" as a sort of bandaid on a much bigger problem which is not going to be fixed in the foreseeable future.
- marcoperaza 9y agoYou’re assuming all Debian packages are secure. Like wlesieutre said in a sibling comment, software from a trusted source can and often does have vulnerabilities.
- wander_homer 9y agoLike the XScreenSaver time bomb that caused a nag screen to pop up on April 1 one or two years ago on peoples screens? Debian distributed this code for years without realizing because no one even glanced at the code. The developer didn't even try to hide the time bomb, he even provided angry comments why he added the code. The only reason Debian didn't distribute some really bad malicious code (that we know of) yet is because they got lucky and no developer tried to mess with them.