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But you don't lose the moment... you go into a new body. (Anticipating down votes for this, though)

by spraak 9y ago

gboudrias 9y ago
You anticipated correctly yet you don't seem to realize why. Where can we possibly take this conversation now except into a religious flame war? If you had approached it from a philosophical perspective, we could actually have a fruitful (or at least interesting) exchange of words. As it stands you dove straight into belief territory, which obviously cannot be debated productively. (I don't mean to be a jerk but I do mean to criticize your apparent lack of self-awareness.)
- spraak 9y ago
  Yeah, that makes sense. But I don't understand what you mean about lack of self awareness? (Perhaps validating your point)
  - gboudrias 9y ago
    I'm a (sort-of) Buddhist myself but I don't presume to know anything for certain, especially not how it should affect the way we see our lives. It just seems arrogant to me to present such things as facts, without so much as an argument. Sorry, shoulda been clearer in my initial reply.
miles 9y ago
The downvotes may be more from the baiting ("Anticipating down votes for this...") than the opinion expressed. Even Wikipedia (normally not a bastion of support for the "unexplained") offers a fairly balanced take on Stevenson's Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Rei...
gerbilly 9y ago
Your comment reminds me of this Zen story: The Emperor asked Master Gudo, "What happens to a man of enlightenment after death?" "How should I know?" replied Gudo. "Because you are a master," answered the Emperor. "Yes sir," said Gudo, "but not a dead one."
- spraak 9y ago
  Except there are people who remember their past lives.
  - bigbluedots 9y ago
    There have so far been none who can do that verifiably, though...
    - EGreg 9y ago
      How are you so sure? Have you read them all? I have heard some crazy stories, which if true would be very hard to explain rationally. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWMEWubrk0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWMEWubrk0

But you don't lose the moment... you go into a new body. (Anticipating down votes for this, though)

by spraak 9y ago

But you don't lose the moment... you go into a new body. (Anticipating down votes for this, though)

You anticipated correctly yet you don't seem to realize why. Where can we possibly take this conversation now except into a religious flame war? If you had approached it from a philosophical perspective, we could actually have a fruitful (or at least interesting) exchange of words. As it stands you dove straight into belief territory, which obviously cannot be debated productively. (I don't mean to be a jerk but I do mean to criticize your apparent lack of self-awareness.)

spraak 9y ago
Yeah, that makes sense. But I don't understand what you mean about lack of self awareness? (Perhaps validating your point)
- gboudrias 9y ago
  I'm a (sort-of) Buddhist myself but I don't presume to know anything for certain, especially not how it should affect the way we see our lives. It just seems arrogant to me to present such things as facts, without so much as an argument. Sorry, shoulda been clearer in my initial reply.

miles 9y ago

The downvotes may be more from the baiting ("Anticipating down votes for this...") than the opinion expressed. Even Wikipedia (normally not a bastion of support for the "unexplained") offers a fairly balanced take on Stevenson's Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Rei...

gerbilly 9y ago

Your comment reminds me of this Zen story: The Emperor asked Master Gudo, "What happens to a man of enlightenment after death?" "How should I know?" replied Gudo. "Because you are a master," answered the Emperor. "Yes sir," said Gudo, "but not a dead one."

spraak 9y ago
Except there are people who remember their past lives.
- bigbluedots 9y ago
  There have so far been none who can do that verifiably, though...
  - EGreg 9y ago
    How are you so sure? Have you read them all? I have heard some crazy stories, which if true would be very hard to explain rationally. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWMEWubrk0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWMEWubrk0