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Cell phones have only existed since the 80's... "smart phones" have existed since the 90s - back in a day when Palm, Nokia, Windows and Blackberry ruled... htt

Cell phones have only existed since the 80's... "smart phones" have existed since the 90s - back in a day when Palm, Nokia, Windows and Blackberry ruled... http://www.nicolasnova.net/pasta-and-vinegar/2015/6/28/some-smartphone-evolution-diagrams http://www.nicolasnova.net/pasta-and-vinegar/2015/6/28/some-... 10 years ago? As far as cell phones go? Most definitely the "Dark Ages"... Considering we are moving into a time frame when watches are starting to have cell connectivity: https://www.lifewire.com/smartwatches-with-cellular-connectivity-4107839 https://www.lifewire.com/smartwatches-with-cellular-connecti... Where are we going to be 5 years from now? 10? 20? Compare the Treo and BlackBerry to the current iPhone X, Note 8, etc...

digi_owl 9y ago
> Compare the Treo and BlackBerry to the current iPhone X, Note 8, etc... And i see screens with more colors and pixels, but other than that not much new. It is still calendars and messages that rules.
- floatboth 9y ago
  "more pixels" is quite an understatement. From 320x240 and 640x480 to 1920x1080 and beyond (Sony made a 4K phone!). But from EDGE to LTE, from weak single core processors to 64-bit 4/6/8 core beasts, from no GPU to what would be considered desktop grade back in the day, from shitty 3gp 144p videos to hardware accelerated 4K H.264/5/VP8/9… Yeah, people still do messages, but messages now include high quality multimedia edited on device. Also, web surfing rules. Opera Mini on J2ME and others sucked, it was nothing like the modern mobile web.
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    And here i still find myself preferring OMini set for single column, as it also strips out all the "modals" and JS bloat found on this "modern" web of yours. As for editing videos or such on a mobile device, bah humbug. The interface is not there in any more than the most rudimentary way. If anything it has regressed unless one happen to have a Galaxy Note, as fingers simply do not offer the precision.
- wernercd 9y ago
  All you see is more pixels? What about GPS? Music? Movies? Facetime in realtime to anyone in the world? What about doing all of the above at the same time? "I only see" is because you are limiting what you see in a way that goes against what the vast majority of people see. That's like saying the new MacBook is no different than a 286 because you had Excel Worksheets on both. Or saying there is no difference between a Model-T and a 2018 Honda Civic - they both use gas, have 4 wheels and a windshield.
  - ptx 9y ago
    > What about GPS? Music? Movies? Lots of high-end feature-phones had all these features in 2007–2008. (GPS was not common before then, but some had it earlier.) > Facetime in realtime to anyone in the world? Video calling was a heavily promoted feature of the first 3G phones, a long time ago. > What about doing all of the above at the same time? Good feature-phones had multitasking in 2006. I would often listen to music while running multiple third-party apps (!) at the same time. Of course, these phones cost a tiny fraction of the price of the first iPhone, so hardware limitations like having only a few megabytes of RAM were a bit constraining. The functionality was basically there though.
    - wernercd 9y ago
      I owned a Moto Razer (original). I've owned a Treo. I've owned multiple iPhones and multiple Samsung Notes. Even comparing the original iPhone vs the current batches of iPhone - we are talking GENERATIONS of improvements. Massively better camera's, GPU, CPU, Batter, Screens - both pixel counts and size, network infrastructure, software infrastructure (MySpace vs Facebook). Orders of magnitude improvements across ALL of those metrics. Simply talking multi-tasking on the original Android and iPhones vs today? Comparing those vs the Palm and Blackberries they replaced? I've lived through 20 years of Cell Phone... 10 years ago may not have been the "Dark Ages"... but it was the time immediately afterwords (Palm/BB/WinPhone were definitely the Dark Ages). We are comparing Horses & Buggies, Model Ts and 2018 Honda Civics... the Model T was better than horses and buggies... but not that much better.

digi_owl 9y ago

> Compare the Treo and BlackBerry to the current iPhone X, Note 8, etc... And i see screens with more colors and pixels, but other than that not much new. It is still calendars and messages that rules.

floatboth 9y ago
"more pixels" is quite an understatement. From 320x240 and 640x480 to 1920x1080 and beyond (Sony made a 4K phone!). But from EDGE to LTE, from weak single core processors to 64-bit 4/6/8 core beasts, from no GPU to what would be considered desktop grade back in the day, from shitty 3gp 144p videos to hardware accelerated 4K H.264/5/VP8/9… Yeah, people still do messages, but messages now include high quality multimedia edited on device. Also, web surfing rules. Opera Mini on J2ME and others sucked, it was nothing like the modern mobile web.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  And here i still find myself preferring OMini set for single column, as it also strips out all the "modals" and JS bloat found on this "modern" web of yours. As for editing videos or such on a mobile device, bah humbug. The interface is not there in any more than the most rudimentary way. If anything it has regressed unless one happen to have a Galaxy Note, as fingers simply do not offer the precision.
wernercd 9y ago
All you see is more pixels? What about GPS? Music? Movies? Facetime in realtime to anyone in the world? What about doing all of the above at the same time? "I only see" is because you are limiting what you see in a way that goes against what the vast majority of people see. That's like saying the new MacBook is no different than a 286 because you had Excel Worksheets on both. Or saying there is no difference between a Model-T and a 2018 Honda Civic - they both use gas, have 4 wheels and a windshield.
- ptx 9y ago
  > What about GPS? Music? Movies? Lots of high-end feature-phones had all these features in 2007–2008. (GPS was not common before then, but some had it earlier.) > Facetime in realtime to anyone in the world? Video calling was a heavily promoted feature of the first 3G phones, a long time ago. > What about doing all of the above at the same time? Good feature-phones had multitasking in 2006. I would often listen to music while running multiple third-party apps (!) at the same time. Of course, these phones cost a tiny fraction of the price of the first iPhone, so hardware limitations like having only a few megabytes of RAM were a bit constraining. The functionality was basically there though.
  - wernercd 9y ago
    I owned a Moto Razer (original). I've owned a Treo. I've owned multiple iPhones and multiple Samsung Notes. Even comparing the original iPhone vs the current batches of iPhone - we are talking GENERATIONS of improvements. Massively better camera's, GPU, CPU, Batter, Screens - both pixel counts and size, network infrastructure, software infrastructure (MySpace vs Facebook). Orders of magnitude improvements across ALL of those metrics. Simply talking multi-tasking on the original Android and iPhones vs today? Comparing those vs the Palm and Blackberries they replaced? I've lived through 20 years of Cell Phone... 10 years ago may not have been the "Dark Ages"... but it was the time immediately afterwords (Palm/BB/WinPhone were definitely the Dark Ages). We are comparing Horses & Buggies, Model Ts and 2018 Honda Civics... the Model T was better than horses and buggies... but not that much better.