I think we're arguing similar things. I'm not saying we only need a hard outer shell. I'm arguing that we _need_ security in depth. And that depth should includ

I think we're arguing similar things. I'm not saying we only need a hard outer shell. I'm arguing that we _need_ security in depth. And that depth should include all scopes of the internet protocol, not just global. You _should_ be able to run TLS locally so that if some global thing does get in, it now has to penetrate another security/application layer too. I should be able to tell my browser to trust these certificates for global IPs and these other ones for my home site. Why not run IPSEC in you home while you're at it too so it's even harder for a remote thing to pivot.