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Good intentions? Any time I read something like this: https://www.thenation.com/article/big-brothers-thought-control-koch/ https://www.thenation.com/article/big

Good intentions? Any time I read something like this: https://www.thenation.com/article/big-brothers-thought-control-koch/ https://www.thenation.com/article/big-brothers-thought-contr... my doubts about them increase.

grasshopperpurp 9y ago
I think they're true believers, which does not justify the evil they do, but I expect they would view this as a situation where the ends justify the means - or a situation where they are educating the uneducated.
- Fins 9y ago
  But did anyone ever point at any actual evil that they do? They seem to be rather liberal/progressive on social issues, and quite moderately conservative on economic ones, which doesn't seem too bad.
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    Using their power to acquire more power in a system that is not designed to deal with this level of corruption is evil in itself. Why do they think they're god's mouthpiece? Why do their economic ideas seem to benefit them so greatly at the expense of others? They've also paid over $733 mil in fines for environmental violations, and they're putting money into lobbying for stripping regulations. Whether you want to call this evil, I don't really care, but it's terrible for humanity and the world, and they should be stopped.
slavik81 9y ago
The whole complaint in that article seems to be that Koch Industries endorsed a candidate in a letter to their employees. Reading the article, there were a few points where I felt like I was reading a propoganda piece, which made the complaints about the Koch's newsletter being right-wing propoganda feel superficial and politically motivated, if not outright hypocritical. Frankly, it's a great example of the sort of thing kbenson and spinchange were talking about above [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16341358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16341358

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Good intentions? Any time I read something like this: https://www.thenation.com/article/big-brothers-thought-control-koch/ https://www.thenation.com/article/big

by rndmize 9y ago

grasshopperpurp 9y ago
I think they're true believers, which does not justify the evil they do, but I expect they would view this as a situation where the ends justify the means - or a situation where they are educating the uneducated.
- Fins 9y ago
  But did anyone ever point at any actual evil that they do? They seem to be rather liberal/progressive on social issues, and quite moderately conservative on economic ones, which doesn't seem too bad.
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    Using their power to acquire more power in a system that is not designed to deal with this level of corruption is evil in itself. Why do they think they're god's mouthpiece? Why do their economic ideas seem to benefit them so greatly at the expense of others? They've also paid over $733 mil in fines for environmental violations, and they're putting money into lobbying for stripping regulations. Whether you want to call this evil, I don't really care, but it's terrible for humanity and the world, and they should be stopped.
slavik81 9y ago
The whole complaint in that article seems to be that Koch Industries endorsed a candidate in a letter to their employees. Reading the article, there were a few points where I felt like I was reading a propoganda piece, which made the complaints about the Koch's newsletter being right-wing propoganda feel superficial and politically motivated, if not outright hypocritical. Frankly, it's a great example of the sort of thing kbenson and spinchange were talking about above [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16341358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16341358