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Unfortunately, mitigating a vulnerability can take a long time and might never happen. When the Imperfect Forward Secrecy paper about weak Diffie-Hellman excha
by schoen 9y ago
Unfortunately, mitigating a vulnerability can take a long time and might never happen.
When the Imperfect Forward Secrecy paper about weak Diffie-Hellman exchanges came out in 2015, not all systems using the vulnerable groups upgraded immediately, and some systems couldn't be easily upgraded either because they were hard-coded or because they had other software limitations.
The IT security situation in many developing countries is also pretty alarming, for example if you look at the prevalence of old unsupported operating systems and browsers in many places.
Even thinking about traditional emanations issues, the "van Eck phreaking" attacks were publicly demonstrated years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5HS8GWIec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5HS8GWIec
but have still not been widely mitigated in practice. Neither have the emanations problems documented by Tromer.
https://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/ https://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/
And we know that the vendors were notified about Spectre in June of last year and the public was told over a month ago, but pretty much all of us continue to be potentially vulnerable to it in some settings, even more than seven months after vendor notifications!
It can be nice for infosec researchers to think that attackers only gain power and capability by knowing secrets, and that if those secrets are exposed the attackers will lose their capabilities, but a number of people have been pointing out that it doesn't always work that way -- or at least there can be quite a long window of vulnerability.
(However, exposing secrets is definitely an important prerequisite for denying capabilities to attackers.)
- myrandomcomment 9y agoThe thing I love about HN is that you say something to be amusing and the engineering types (I am one, so I am making fun of myself) always make some logical argument in response. The best part is 90% of the time you learn something!
- jacquesm 9y ago> The IT security situation in many developing countries is also pretty alarming It's pretty alarming in most of the developed countries as well.
- schoen 9y agoYes, thanks for the correction. I was mostly thinking about the narrow problem of widespread use of very old software, and for example Microsoft's visualization of IE6 market share by country after the company got involved in trying to get people to stop using it. Edit: also, for example, on the Let's Encrypt forums it's somewhat more common for people from developing countries to insist that they have to keep using server software in production that officially went EOL 2 years ago or something. But developing countries absolutely don't have a monopoly on this issue, and I've certainly seen it regularly from users in the United States.