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I appreciate replaceable batteries, but they are generally not compatible with water resistance, which seems to be a more favored feature.

Brakenshire 9y ago
They seemed to accomplish it with the G5.
- dec0dedab0de 9y ago
  I actually just changed the battery on my G5 instead of buying a new phone, and it is working great again. Not being able to change the battery is planned obsolescence, that is all it ever was.
- jdmichal 9y ago
  Not with sealed ports. I never trusted the S5 water proofing because of things like the battery cover and unsealed ports. Oh, and the charging cover broke off both of my wife's S5s...
- frikk 9y ago
  I recently dropped my Galaxy S5 [with a case and glass protector] into the toilet (gross). It was probably submerged for a full 2 seconds. Absolutely no side effects what-so-ever. I even gave it a full rinse in the sink afterwards. I'm holding tight onto this phone, it's awesome.
agumonkey 9y ago
I'm sure it's highly feasible, but not on the important-feature list for them. ps: also, yeah, water sealed electronics is very valueable. And when you do need to replace a battery, a tech could swap it with a few tools. Not user replaceable but still replaceable at low cost.
- darkhorn 9y ago
  But with LG G5 I can carry a second or a third battery with me while I'm away from home. And I can swap the batteries within a minute. Also, I have external battery charger for LG G5. I can use my phone freely while my other battery is being charged. You don't face water probles every day but you face charging problems every day. Also when my battery dies I don't need to wait someone to change my battery. After all I already chage my battery every day.
  - Arnt 9y ago
    It rains every day where I grew up. YMMV.
  - dgzl 9y ago
    > You don't face water probles every day but you face charging problems every day. Speak for yourself. I have water problems about as frequently as I have low battery problems.
  - agumonkey 9y ago
    water problems are less often but when they happen you're out of phone for at least 48h
  - stouset 9y ago
    Battery cases are generally a better solution to this problem for the vast majority of people. Most people use cases anyway, and space is at a premium on the inside of the phone. Not so much on the outside. Plus, battery cases can be used without shutting down and turning the phone back on.
pcurve 9y ago
Agreed. As long as battery can be replaced by mfr at reasonable fee, I don't mind not having user serviceable battery as long as there are better trade offs. If I needed extended battery life on the go, I'd prefer 10,000 mah external source.
danjoc 9y ago
Not true at all. Fujitsu F-10D (2012) http://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/press-releases/2012/0718-02.html http://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/press-rel... Waterproof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVpuizKD3k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVpuizKD3k The back pops off just like a Galaxy S3. The battery itself is not just removable, it also charges wirelessly. Micro SD and of course a headphone jack. It was also the first quad core LTE on the market.
tomp 9y ago
is water resistance a real feature? AFAIK Apple's iPhones are supposed to be "water resistant" but at the same time Apple isn't responsible for any damages, which leads me to conclude that they're not actually water resistant. Might be different with Android though...
- Piskvorrr 9y ago
  Nope, marketing checkbox feature only (a.k.a "big fat honking lie" IMNSHO), no actual resistance whatsoever in my experience. Samsung S5 billed as "IP67 certified", meaning water resistant up to 30min/3 feet IIRC, yet denied warranty repair from 10 sec/1 inch of water, even though I had the plug in and everything. Apparently it's only resistant against dry water or something. /s Edit: sorry for offending the downvoter - I actually like that phone, yet there I was with a wet brick.
  - stouset 9y ago
    I suspect you’ve been downvoted because iPhones have been demonstrated to be water resistant decently past their official rating, and through context it appears that you were referring to their resistance being a lie.
    - Piskvorrr 9y ago
      Ah, I see. I was referring to "Might be different with Android though..."
- tyfon 9y ago
  I bring my IP68 Sony XZs (with minijack) into my bathtub regularly. I wouldn't recommend it though due to warranties etc, who knows what they will say.
- Izkata 9y ago
  My prior flip-phone (not a smartphone) wasn't just water-resistant, but actually waterproof and had a removable battery. You had to use a quarter to pop open the rubber seal to replace it.
ptero 9y ago
I think replaceable batteries do not present big problems for water resistance. Water proofing is another story, but at least IME water resistance to a decent level is enough. For example, I have an old GPS+HRM runner watch which is water resistant but not fully water proof. After a run I briefly wash it under running water (not submerging, but heavily splashing and using soap). I have been subjecting this watch to such abuse for years and it has not failed yet. I think for most users water resistance would be just fine, although this may be just a personal bias.

Brakenshire 9y ago

They seemed to accomplish it with the G5.

dec0dedab0de 9y ago
I actually just changed the battery on my G5 instead of buying a new phone, and it is working great again. Not being able to change the battery is planned obsolescence, that is all it ever was.
jdmichal 9y ago
Not with sealed ports. I never trusted the S5 water proofing because of things like the battery cover and unsealed ports. Oh, and the charging cover broke off both of my wife's S5s...
frikk 9y ago
I recently dropped my Galaxy S5 [with a case and glass protector] into the toilet (gross). It was probably submerged for a full 2 seconds. Absolutely no side effects what-so-ever. I even gave it a full rinse in the sink afterwards. I'm holding tight onto this phone, it's awesome.

agumonkey 9y ago

I'm sure it's highly feasible, but not on the important-feature list for them. ps: also, yeah, water sealed electronics is very valueable. And when you do need to replace a battery, a tech could swap it with a few tools. Not user replaceable but still replaceable at low cost.

darkhorn 9y ago
But with LG G5 I can carry a second or a third battery with me while I'm away from home. And I can swap the batteries within a minute. Also, I have external battery charger for LG G5. I can use my phone freely while my other battery is being charged. You don't face water probles every day but you face charging problems every day. Also when my battery dies I don't need to wait someone to change my battery. After all I already chage my battery every day.
- Arnt 9y ago
  It rains every day where I grew up. YMMV.
- dgzl 9y ago
  > You don't face water probles every day but you face charging problems every day. Speak for yourself. I have water problems about as frequently as I have low battery problems.
- agumonkey 9y ago
  water problems are less often but when they happen you're out of phone for at least 48h
- stouset 9y ago
  Battery cases are generally a better solution to this problem for the vast majority of people. Most people use cases anyway, and space is at a premium on the inside of the phone. Not so much on the outside. Plus, battery cases can be used without shutting down and turning the phone back on.

pcurve 9y ago

Agreed. As long as battery can be replaced by mfr at reasonable fee, I don't mind not having user serviceable battery as long as there are better trade offs. If I needed extended battery life on the go, I'd prefer 10,000 mah external source.

danjoc 9y ago

Not true at all. Fujitsu F-10D (2012) http://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/press-releases/2012/0718-02.html http://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/press-rel... Waterproof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVpuizKD3k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZVpuizKD3k The back pops off just like a Galaxy S3. The battery itself is not just removable, it also charges wirelessly. Micro SD and of course a headphone jack. It was also the first quad core LTE on the market.

tomp 9y ago

is water resistance a real feature? AFAIK Apple's iPhones are supposed to be "water resistant" but at the same time Apple isn't responsible for any damages, which leads me to conclude that they're not actually water resistant. Might be different with Android though...

Piskvorrr 9y ago
Nope, marketing checkbox feature only (a.k.a "big fat honking lie" IMNSHO), no actual resistance whatsoever in my experience. Samsung S5 billed as "IP67 certified", meaning water resistant up to 30min/3 feet IIRC, yet denied warranty repair from 10 sec/1 inch of water, even though I had the plug in and everything. Apparently it's only resistant against dry water or something. /s Edit: sorry for offending the downvoter - I actually like that phone, yet there I was with a wet brick.
- stouset 9y ago
  I suspect you’ve been downvoted because iPhones have been demonstrated to be water resistant decently past their official rating, and through context it appears that you were referring to their resistance being a lie.
  - Piskvorrr 9y ago
    Ah, I see. I was referring to "Might be different with Android though..."
tyfon 9y ago
I bring my IP68 Sony XZs (with minijack) into my bathtub regularly. I wouldn't recommend it though due to warranties etc, who knows what they will say.
Izkata 9y ago
My prior flip-phone (not a smartphone) wasn't just water-resistant, but actually waterproof and had a removable battery. You had to use a quarter to pop open the rubber seal to replace it.

ptero 9y ago

I think replaceable batteries do not present big problems for water resistance. Water proofing is another story, but at least IME water resistance to a decent level is enough. For example, I have an old GPS+HRM runner watch which is water resistant but not fully water proof. After a run I briefly wash it under running water (not submerging, but heavily splashing and using soap). I have been subjecting this watch to such abuse for years and it has not failed yet. I think for most users water resistance would be just fine, although this may be just a personal bias.