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Developer salaries in the UK are very modest. Companies don't even know how to identify good developers, so they have no hope of competing over them.

expertentipp 9y ago
They filter out the people by offering less and less, for shorter and shorter contract periods. After a period of intense job search in UK couple of years ago, I'm still receiving recruitment mail (or spam?) for "initial 2 weeks contract" in Angular/React with "an option to extend" - I'd just have to relocate to London:D
fahadkhan 9y ago
According to www.itjobswatch.co.uk a senior Java developer earns £70k. But can command day rate of £575. That works out at about double. Suggestion it is bimodal.
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- walshemj 9y ago
  It contractors and engineering contractors in the UK have always been able to demand a decent multiplier for contract work 2-3x normaly. Though some industries (advertising publishing marketing) that formerly did not have to consider on technical excellence and where used to relaying of cheap Oxbridge liberal arts students with a 1st seem to want to pay temp technical roles at straight time instead of the real contractor day rate.
- Helmet 9y ago
  Yeah, but given current exchange rates £70k is ~$100k. ~100k is nothing to sneeze at...
baud147258 9y ago
Apparently, UK IT salaries are still above those in France, even if there is an (apparent) lack of IT professionals in the current market. Source (in French): http://bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/emploi/metiers-du-numerique-les-talents-francais-sont-sous-payes-1369156.html http://bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/emploi/metiers-du-numerique-les...
- sjg007 9y ago
  France and the UK just need a unicorn company or other powerhouse to come in to change the dynamic. Google/FB are there but really a home grown company would be better.
mattlondon 9y ago
Not sure on that - nowhere near the US equivalents, but total comp (salary + bonus + equity) of approx £130-140K is what is apparently "competitive" for engineers who are "senior" but not management in London (according to my employer who does all of the usual "market rate adjustment" stuff). £130K feels like quite a lot of money to me.

expertentipp 9y ago

They filter out the people by offering less and less, for shorter and shorter contract periods. After a period of intense job search in UK couple of years ago, I'm still receiving recruitment mail (or spam?) for "initial 2 weeks contract" in Angular/React with "an option to extend" - I'd just have to relocate to London:D

fahadkhan 9y ago

According to www.itjobswatch.co.uk a senior Java developer earns £70k. But can command day rate of £575. That works out at about double. Suggestion it is bimodal.

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walshemj 9y ago
It contractors and engineering contractors in the UK have always been able to demand a decent multiplier for contract work 2-3x normaly. Though some industries (advertising publishing marketing) that formerly did not have to consider on technical excellence and where used to relaying of cheap Oxbridge liberal arts students with a 1st seem to want to pay temp technical roles at straight time instead of the real contractor day rate.
Helmet 9y ago
Yeah, but given current exchange rates £70k is ~$100k. ~100k is nothing to sneeze at...

baud147258 9y ago

Apparently, UK IT salaries are still above those in France, even if there is an (apparent) lack of IT professionals in the current market. Source (in French): http://bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/emploi/metiers-du-numerique-les-talents-francais-sont-sous-payes-1369156.html http://bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/emploi/metiers-du-numerique-les...

sjg007 9y ago
France and the UK just need a unicorn company or other powerhouse to come in to change the dynamic. Google/FB are there but really a home grown company would be better.

mattlondon 9y ago

Not sure on that - nowhere near the US equivalents, but total comp (salary + bonus + equity) of approx £130-140K is what is apparently "competitive" for engineers who are "senior" but not management in London (according to my employer who does all of the usual "market rate adjustment" stuff). £130K feels like quite a lot of money to me.