> Personally I don't see the problem with surveillance. Maybe that's because you don't actually SEE the surveillance. Surely you close the door when you try o

> Personally I don't see the problem with surveillance. Maybe that's because you don't actually SEE the surveillance. Surely you close the door when you try on clothes at a mall, or when you use a toilet? You're making claims that because we interact on the web we should not expect any safety. That's fine... but what about those of us who specifically don't use Google, Facebook, etc... we are STILL surveilled, constantly. The US Gov't is STILL trying to break encryption (for everybody) in order to surveil more completely. Privacy is forfeit by participation in these types of forums (centrally administered), but not all forums are like these. As distributed networks continue to develop, the arguments you've used to advocate a carelessness about your post-privacy lifestyle will no longer be valid. But the state apparatus and oppressive outcomes that type of intellectual laziness enables/encourages will persist.