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First, the CDC recommends Tamiflu: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/antivirals/summary-clinicians.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/antivirals/sum

First, the CDC recommends Tamiflu: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/antivirals/summary-clinicians.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/antivirals/summary-cli... Second, in 2003 Roche upped production. So yes they sat on it. SARS was in 2003 - and it takes 12 months to produce. What Roche was producing pre 2002 would prove or disprove the story, but I can't find this information anywhere -- I would gamble not much. "It's pointless to look at ways for outsiders to produce Tamiflu, Roche's Reddy says. He notes that Roche can meet demand expectations faster than anyone else because it is familiar with the challenging production process. To meet current orders, Roche has quadrupled production capacity since 2003," http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i35/8335tamiflu.html http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i35/8335tamiflu.html

mustacheemperor 9y ago
Your answer does not address the criticisms in the comment you are replying to. If the Asian bird flu epidemic was in 2005 there is no correlation to an increase in production in 2003. Could reduced production in the first 4 years of the drug's approved existence be explained by a challenging production process?
- austinprete 9y ago
  He did actually, but he used the medical term SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) [1] in place of "Asian bird flu". However, they refer to the same thing, and SARS does appear to have only been a major problem from late-2002 to mid-2003, a timeline that is consistent with his claims. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndr...
  - mustacheemperor 9y ago
    Ah, I understand the argument a bit better then, but I don't think that's really a valid substitute. Avian flu is H5N1, whereas as that article describes SARS is caused by SARS coronavirus. I suppose oseltamivir may be used to treat both, since it's an antiviral, but I'm not able to find much online indicating that. Regardless, I think the medically accurate term to substitute for "Asian bird flu epidemic" would be "the H5N1 epidemic in Asia."
refurb 9y ago
Roche upped production so that's your claim that they "sat on it"? Production is dependent on demand, which is dependent on how bad the flu season is and how many are treated with Tamiflu. Otherwise a company produces a ton of product that just expires. Predicting what the next flu season will be like is hard as hell. I haven't seen anyone do a decent job of it. Even Google tried and failed miserably. I don't see that as "sitting on it". Also, the drug was already approved. Why would Roche not just sell more Tamiflu, it's easy money? What benefit is there to "sitting on it"?

mustacheemperor 9y ago

Your answer does not address the criticisms in the comment you are replying to. If the Asian bird flu epidemic was in 2005 there is no correlation to an increase in production in 2003. Could reduced production in the first 4 years of the drug's approved existence be explained by a challenging production process?

austinprete 9y ago
He did actually, but he used the medical term SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) [1] in place of "Asian bird flu". However, they refer to the same thing, and SARS does appear to have only been a major problem from late-2002 to mid-2003, a timeline that is consistent with his claims. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndr...
- mustacheemperor 9y ago
  Ah, I understand the argument a bit better then, but I don't think that's really a valid substitute. Avian flu is H5N1, whereas as that article describes SARS is caused by SARS coronavirus. I suppose oseltamivir may be used to treat both, since it's an antiviral, but I'm not able to find much online indicating that. Regardless, I think the medically accurate term to substitute for "Asian bird flu epidemic" would be "the H5N1 epidemic in Asia."

refurb 9y ago

Roche upped production so that's your claim that they "sat on it"? Production is dependent on demand, which is dependent on how bad the flu season is and how many are treated with Tamiflu. Otherwise a company produces a ton of product that just expires. Predicting what the next flu season will be like is hard as hell. I haven't seen anyone do a decent job of it. Even Google tried and failed miserably. I don't see that as "sitting on it". Also, the drug was already approved. Why would Roche not just sell more Tamiflu, it's easy money? What benefit is there to "sitting on it"?