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Sorry for the dumb question but I don't understand when the Doomsday is.... Looks like we have gone from 300 to 400 in 50 years. What number is Doomsday and w

Sorry for the dumb question but I don't understand when the Doomsday is.... Looks like we have gone from 300 to 400 in 50 years. What number is Doomsday and when are we projected to hit it? That's what I was expecting to see here, and if that isn't information we have or you want to project, maybe the title shouldn't be so provoking.

titojankowski 9y ago
Good perspective! Doomsday levels in the works. Relevant article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2017/03/16/have-we-passed-the-climate-change-tipping-point/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2...
- mirimir 9y ago
  I'm guessing that there's a continuum of doomsday levels. Rate and extent of temperature increase. Tipping points for melting of major chunks of grounded ice, and sea-level consequences. Regional changes in arability, and impacts on food production. Tipping points for melting of permafrost, and positive feedback on climate forcing. Reduction in climate forcing by SOx emissions, and spike in warming after SOx emission reductions.
shoo 9y ago
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2248 https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2248
- lozenge 9y ago
  Also http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081648 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....
sintaxi 9y ago
Don't worry. The globe has been in a cooling period for the last 18 years despite a 6x increase in emissions. The only people saying we have a climate crisis on our hands are the political organizations that wish to implement taxes and de-industrialize the west. Plenty of reputable scientists have shown that the CO2 crisis is highly exaggerated if not completely unfounded. https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/smart/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fpeterferrara%2Ffiles%2F2014%2F02%2Fpeter.jpg%3Fwidth%3D960 https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/smart/https%3A%2F%2...
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > The globe has been in a cooling period for the last 18 years No, it hasn't. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...
  - sintaxi 9y ago
    My friend, NOAA and IPCC have been proven to purposefully manipulate the data to achieve their political agenda. These orgs build all their charts with Models on theorized data even for dates that have already passed. Their models do not factor in heat from the sun, geo thermal cycles, nor orbiting cycles around the sun (which changes from circle to ellipses). Please look into how these orgs are ran & the whistle blowers that have come out. Also see the emails that wiki-leaks has released. Climate change is a trillion dollar industry built entirely on deception and FUD. Edit: 18 year cooling proven with satellite data https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2014/02/24/the-period-of-no-global-warming-will-soon-be-longer-than-the-period-of-actual-global-warming/#2599c4bf4a98 https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2014/02/24/the-per...
    - Brakenshire 9y ago
      The RSS dataset that article is based on (other than the storied scientific principle of cherry-picking your end-points to obtain the most favourable trend for your conclusion) turned out to be incorrect, according to RSS, mostly because of failing to fully account for orbital drift: https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI-D-16-0768.1 https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI-D-16-0768....
      - sintaxi 9y ago
        You essentially just linked me a document that admits they have to fudge the data to get the result they are looking for because the actual readings don't support their conclusion. It also makes no mention of the fact that Every 25 to 30 years the oceans undergo a natural cycle where the colder water below churns to replace the warmer water.

titojankowski 9y ago

Good perspective! Doomsday levels in the works. Relevant article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2017/03/16/have-we-passed-the-climate-change-tipping-point/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2...

mirimir 9y ago
I'm guessing that there's a continuum of doomsday levels. Rate and extent of temperature increase. Tipping points for melting of major chunks of grounded ice, and sea-level consequences. Regional changes in arability, and impacts on food production. Tipping points for melting of permafrost, and positive feedback on climate forcing. Reduction in climate forcing by SOx emissions, and spike in warming after SOx emission reductions.

shoo 9y ago

https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2248 https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2248

lozenge 9y ago
Also http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081648 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....

sintaxi 9y ago

Don't worry. The globe has been in a cooling period for the last 18 years despite a 6x increase in emissions. The only people saying we have a climate crisis on our hands are the political organizations that wish to implement taxes and de-industrialize the west. Plenty of reputable scientists have shown that the CO2 crisis is highly exaggerated if not completely unfounded. https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/smart/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fpeterferrara%2Ffiles%2F2014%2F02%2Fpeter.jpg%3Fwidth%3D960 https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/smart/https%3A%2F%2...

dragonwriter 9y ago
> The globe has been in a cooling period for the last 18 years No, it hasn't. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...
- sintaxi 9y ago
  My friend, NOAA and IPCC have been proven to purposefully manipulate the data to achieve their political agenda. These orgs build all their charts with Models on theorized data even for dates that have already passed. Their models do not factor in heat from the sun, geo thermal cycles, nor orbiting cycles around the sun (which changes from circle to ellipses). Please look into how these orgs are ran & the whistle blowers that have come out. Also see the emails that wiki-leaks has released. Climate change is a trillion dollar industry built entirely on deception and FUD. Edit: 18 year cooling proven with satellite data https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2014/02/24/the-period-of-no-global-warming-will-soon-be-longer-than-the-period-of-actual-global-warming/#2599c4bf4a98 https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2014/02/24/the-per...
  - Brakenshire 9y ago
    The RSS dataset that article is based on (other than the storied scientific principle of cherry-picking your end-points to obtain the most favourable trend for your conclusion) turned out to be incorrect, according to RSS, mostly because of failing to fully account for orbital drift: https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI-D-16-0768.1 https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI-D-16-0768....
    - sintaxi 9y ago
      You essentially just linked me a document that admits they have to fudge the data to get the result they are looking for because the actual readings don't support their conclusion. It also makes no mention of the fact that Every 25 to 30 years the oceans undergo a natural cycle where the colder water below churns to replace the warmer water.