4 ms·

>Recently, I came down with the flu (I had the vaccine), I took 4 pills over 2 days and it was turned into a slight cold A much more convincing explanation is

>Recently, I came down with the flu (I had the vaccine), I took 4 pills over 2 days and it was turned into a slight cold A much more convincing explanation is that your symptoms were ameliorated by your vaccination, which is a thoroughly-documented effect.

ryanwaggoner 9y ago
Actually, this is interesting as an explanation. My toddler woke up yesterday with fever and I was starting to feel like I was coming down with something as well (no fever yet), so we went to the clinic. They tested her, flu confirmed, gave us all Tamiflu. I started feeling markedly better about 6-8 hours after first dose. Today, we’re all completely normal except for mild cold symptoms. And this happened basically exactly the same last year. So I find all these studies about how Tamiflu basically does nothing to be pretty hard to take seriously... EXCEPT that we were all vaccinated, which I didn’t even consider until now. I had assumed that getting the flu was a binary thing, and the vaccination just protected you from coming down with it, but wouldn’t ameliorate the symptoms or cause you to recover faster. That’s a much more compelling story if true.
- Lewton 9y ago
  I’m no doctor But a vaccine is basically giving your immune system a new toolbox for fighting diseases, so it would make sense to me that even if it didn’t stop you from getting the disease, it still equips your immune system to ease the severity
  - ryanwaggoner 9y ago
    It makes sense, but I just never hear about that as a reason to get the vaccine, which seems crazy. The flu is miserable, so if the actual benefit of the vaccine is that you probably won’t get sick, and if you do, it’ll be for 36 hours instead of ten days, that seems to be a huge benefit they’re underselling.
    - hycaria 9y ago
      It works that way yes, especially for the flu that changes so fast that its vaccination is no immune guarantee but rather helps to have milder symptoms. I guess how it's promoted depends on where you live. Also don't forget that not everyone has good cognitive capacities and such probabilities (you might still get sick with the vaccine, but symptoms might be milder) are not easy to grasp for everyone. I guess they just wanna keep the public message straight and simple.
- maxerickson 9y ago
  The CDC discusses moderation of the illness some: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm I guess they don't want to get too far out ahead of the science.

ryanwaggoner 9y ago

Actually, this is interesting as an explanation. My toddler woke up yesterday with fever and I was starting to feel like I was coming down with something as well (no fever yet), so we went to the clinic. They tested her, flu confirmed, gave us all Tamiflu. I started feeling markedly better about 6-8 hours after first dose. Today, we’re all completely normal except for mild cold symptoms. And this happened basically exactly the same last year. So I find all these studies about how Tamiflu basically does nothing to be pretty hard to take seriously... EXCEPT that we were all vaccinated, which I didn’t even consider until now. I had assumed that getting the flu was a binary thing, and the vaccination just protected you from coming down with it, but wouldn’t ameliorate the symptoms or cause you to recover faster. That’s a much more compelling story if true.

Lewton 9y ago
I’m no doctor But a vaccine is basically giving your immune system a new toolbox for fighting diseases, so it would make sense to me that even if it didn’t stop you from getting the disease, it still equips your immune system to ease the severity
- ryanwaggoner 9y ago
  It makes sense, but I just never hear about that as a reason to get the vaccine, which seems crazy. The flu is miserable, so if the actual benefit of the vaccine is that you probably won’t get sick, and if you do, it’ll be for 36 hours instead of ten days, that seems to be a huge benefit they’re underselling.
  - hycaria 9y ago
    It works that way yes, especially for the flu that changes so fast that its vaccination is no immune guarantee but rather helps to have milder symptoms. I guess how it's promoted depends on where you live. Also don't forget that not everyone has good cognitive capacities and such probabilities (you might still get sick with the vaccine, but symptoms might be milder) are not easy to grasp for everyone. I guess they just wanna keep the public message straight and simple.
maxerickson 9y ago
The CDC discusses moderation of the illness some: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm I guess they don't want to get too far out ahead of the science.