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> From what I have read about the maintenance needs of systems like the F-22 and B-2 someone who has simpler, easier to maintain airplanes should also have an a

> From what I have read about the maintenance needs of systems like the F-22 and B-2 someone who has simpler, easier to maintain airplanes should also have an advantage once things get busy. Also from a numbers standpoint. They keep buying fewer and fewer airframes as costs rise, which I'd assume means they'd be very vulnerable to attrition against a peer adversary. High-tech planes aren't very helpful if you have none left or too few to risk.

antishatter 9y ago
You should read about the millenium wargames challenge. The US fleet was destroyed within the first 24 hours by a former vietnam era general using asymetric warfare and launched his planes via hand signals instead of radio etc.
- dforrestwilson 9y ago
  Was curious and Googled. Some perspective here: https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/millennium-challenge-the-real-story-of-a-corrupted-military-exercise-and-its-legacy/ https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/millennium-challenge-the-r...
  - bjelkeman-again 9y ago
    That was interesting reading. Also a damming account on how the leadership of the U.S forces are not prepared to face the fact that they may be wrong about their capabilities.
- pavpanchekha 9y ago
  Common misconception. The wargames effectively suffered a bug that caused the US fleet ships to be easily destroyed.
  - scrumper 9y ago
    A bug? I'm not sure the analogy holds. Why would the techniques used by the bad guy general not be available to a real adversary? Did he win by finding an exploit in the meta war-game (i.e. a cheat), or did he win fairly, entirely in the context of the game? I thought the latter.
    - pavpanchekha 9y ago
      The simulator teleported the "Blue Team" fleet right into harbor. They were not ordered to go there and were in fact ordered to stay away, precisely because that would lead to the possibility of boat attacks. I think that counts as a bug. The simulator also didn't account for the capacity of small boats, so allowed the boats to move much faster that reasonable for the amount of explosives they were supposedly carrying. That is probably not a cheat, just an exploitation of bad simulation rules, but also makes the results less demonstrative of the actual results of an engagement with Iran.

antishatter 9y ago

You should read about the millenium wargames challenge. The US fleet was destroyed within the first 24 hours by a former vietnam era general using asymetric warfare and launched his planes via hand signals instead of radio etc.

dforrestwilson 9y ago
Was curious and Googled. Some perspective here: https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/millennium-challenge-the-real-story-of-a-corrupted-military-exercise-and-its-legacy/ https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/millennium-challenge-the-r...
- bjelkeman-again 9y ago
  That was interesting reading. Also a damming account on how the leadership of the U.S forces are not prepared to face the fact that they may be wrong about their capabilities.
pavpanchekha 9y ago
Common misconception. The wargames effectively suffered a bug that caused the US fleet ships to be easily destroyed.
- scrumper 9y ago
  A bug? I'm not sure the analogy holds. Why would the techniques used by the bad guy general not be available to a real adversary? Did he win by finding an exploit in the meta war-game (i.e. a cheat), or did he win fairly, entirely in the context of the game? I thought the latter.
  - pavpanchekha 9y ago
    The simulator teleported the "Blue Team" fleet right into harbor. They were not ordered to go there and were in fact ordered to stay away, precisely because that would lead to the possibility of boat attacks. I think that counts as a bug. The simulator also didn't account for the capacity of small boats, so allowed the boats to move much faster that reasonable for the amount of explosives they were supposedly carrying. That is probably not a cheat, just an exploitation of bad simulation rules, but also makes the results less demonstrative of the actual results of an engagement with Iran.