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The parent comment was not about Twitter Reddit Facebook coexisting or not peacefully, but about the logic of all of them competing against our public health.

The parent comment was not about Twitter Reddit Facebook coexisting or not peacefully, but about the logic of all of them competing against our public health. IMHO we should regulate the hell out of them each time a significant harm on society can be proved, like we did for any other things that humans ever invented. But tech evangelists will say that time is different because 0 and 1 are being exchanged

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nerfhammer 9y ago
regulating speech is a practically and legally thorny issue not just because tech bros are dumb and lazy
- iamdave 9y ago
  I'm not immediately seeing the connection between legal arguments of curtailing speech and "tech bros" and their intellect or work ethic. Can you clarify what you mean?
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malvosenior 9y ago
Tech evangelists will say that not because "it's different" but because we never agreed with regulation so we've built tools and platforms that embrace free speech. That's the entire point of something like Twitter. Or at least it used to be until the politics of the employees shifted to be more mainstream. The end-goal for a lot of us is a fully decentralized internet that is technologically impossible to regulate.
- jmfayard 9y ago
  Fully decentralized internet lol. The internet economy is much more centralized that the old world ever was There is no problem at all identifying the big players that have too much power
  - malvosenior 9y ago
    There's more to tech than companies, examples: Linux: open, distributed development, massive success Bittorrent: p2p, massive success Bitcoin: fully distributed, massive success (pending) There is nothing more centralized than the government. They have a monopoly on violence. I (and many others) want them as far away from our industry as possible. I'll take Google over government intervention any day.
    - jmfayard 9y ago
      Look, everywhere there is power, there is abuse of power, it does not matter what source of power it comes from. The only thing that helps is having another power that checks it.
    - TeMPOraL 9y ago
      Centralization isn't bad; often, it's welcome, as by its nature it's more efficient. Bitcoin is a good example of how not to do tech. Beyond that, you're under the mistaken impression that government=centralized, private=decentralized. The reality is, governments and markets are two sides of the same coin. They both strive centralize control.
      - malvosenior 9y ago
        > Bitcoin is a good example of how not to do tech Bitcoin is a great example of exactly how to do tech. I'm pretty sure we probably fundamentally disagree on most things :) > you're under the mistaken impression that government=centralized, private=decentralized None of the technologies I listed are private enterprises.
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nerfhammer 9y ago

regulating speech is a practically and legally thorny issue not just because tech bros are dumb and lazy

iamdave 9y ago
I'm not immediately seeing the connection between legal arguments of curtailing speech and "tech bros" and their intellect or work ethic. Can you clarify what you mean?
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malvosenior 9y ago

Tech evangelists will say that not because "it's different" but because we never agreed with regulation so we've built tools and platforms that embrace free speech. That's the entire point of something like Twitter. Or at least it used to be until the politics of the employees shifted to be more mainstream. The end-goal for a lot of us is a fully decentralized internet that is technologically impossible to regulate.

jmfayard 9y ago
Fully decentralized internet lol. The internet economy is much more centralized that the old world ever was There is no problem at all identifying the big players that have too much power
- malvosenior 9y ago
  There's more to tech than companies, examples: Linux: open, distributed development, massive success Bittorrent: p2p, massive success Bitcoin: fully distributed, massive success (pending) There is nothing more centralized than the government. They have a monopoly on violence. I (and many others) want them as far away from our industry as possible. I'll take Google over government intervention any day.
  - jmfayard 9y ago
    Look, everywhere there is power, there is abuse of power, it does not matter what source of power it comes from. The only thing that helps is having another power that checks it.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    Centralization isn't bad; often, it's welcome, as by its nature it's more efficient. Bitcoin is a good example of how not to do tech. Beyond that, you're under the mistaken impression that government=centralized, private=decentralized. The reality is, governments and markets are two sides of the same coin. They both strive centralize control.
    - malvosenior 9y ago
      > Bitcoin is a good example of how not to do tech Bitcoin is a great example of exactly how to do tech. I'm pretty sure we probably fundamentally disagree on most things :) > you're under the mistaken impression that government=centralized, private=decentralized None of the technologies I listed are private enterprises.
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