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> European companies pay programmers significantly less than US companies The European system assumes that you don't need to pay healthcare, your children's da

by sampo 9y ago

> European companies pay programmers significantly less than US companies The European system assumes that you don't need to pay healthcare, your children's daycare and education, and pension savings from your salary. It works is you live permanently in Europe. But of course working a bit in Europe while planning to move back to US for raising a family can be a bad deal. Then again, for young Europeans working for a while in the US and then moving back to Europe to settle down can be a great deal.

herbst 9y ago
> The European system Thats not a thing. In Switzerland you pay healthcare yourself to a private company as well. As well as most of your pension savings are on a private contract. I am also certain Childcare needs to be paid out of your own pocket in nearly all countries around here. Except you are thinking of "Kindergeld" (Children Money) which adds a little to your household if you have children. You also would profit from all of it while you are here and just cash out (most) of it when you go again, i dont see why this would be a bad deal. TL:DR; You just generalized europe for whatever reason.
- sampo 9y ago
  You are correct, Switzerland is a bit different than most other European countries.
  - herbst 9y ago
    Its not about Switzerland only tho. The whole laws around social structure, taxes, remote work, are not unified at all within europe. There are countries where your arguments are completely true (Germany for example i would guess) but others already are different enough to make them invalid again (Austria for example has no paid childcare, and healthcare is force deducted from your wage and usually even more expensive than in Switzerland) I just like to enrage about phrases like "european system" :) To avoid triggering phrase nazis like me talking about the "EU" instead of "Europe" often makes it more correct :)

by sampo 9y ago

herbst 9y ago

> The European system Thats not a thing. In Switzerland you pay healthcare yourself to a private company as well. As well as most of your pension savings are on a private contract. I am also certain Childcare needs to be paid out of your own pocket in nearly all countries around here. Except you are thinking of "Kindergeld" (Children Money) which adds a little to your household if you have children. You also would profit from all of it while you are here and just cash out (most) of it when you go again, i dont see why this would be a bad deal. TL:DR; You just generalized europe for whatever reason.

sampo 9y ago
You are correct, Switzerland is a bit different than most other European countries.
- herbst 9y ago
  Its not about Switzerland only tho. The whole laws around social structure, taxes, remote work, are not unified at all within europe. There are countries where your arguments are completely true (Germany for example i would guess) but others already are different enough to make them invalid again (Austria for example has no paid childcare, and healthcare is force deducted from your wage and usually even more expensive than in Switzerland) I just like to enrage about phrases like "european system" :) To avoid triggering phrase nazis like me talking about the "EU" instead of "Europe" often makes it more correct :)