5 ms·

Id also like to add that the majority of your first time visitors are gonna have no reference point for what a good or bad PPM is. It would be helpful to have p

Id also like to add that the majority of your first time visitors are gonna have no reference point for what a good or bad PPM is. It would be helpful to have projection scenarios for the future and introduce labels for specific points in the time line with significant theoretical effects at that carbon level.

titojankowski 9y ago
Woa, that would be cool! Any suggestions for theoretical points you’d like to see? GitHub repo: https://github.com/giving-a-fuck-about-climate-change https://github.com/giving-a-fuck-about-climate-change
- Ancalagon 9y ago
  Theoretical rises in sea level, irreversible runaway effects, some actual 'doomsday' scenarios (e.g. the clathrate gun, algae blooms, jellyfish blooms, etc.) Really this would require some research. There are a lot of models, and I frankly am not sure which are more accurate.
  - titojankowski 9y ago
    Yeah that sounds like a cool tool. More like Clathrate Fun! Maybe turn it into a game haha. Anything else you’re curious about regarding climate change?
    - Ancalagon 9y ago
      I also would like to see some in-your-face actionable advice for the average user. I give a fuck now about climate change, what can I do, really, to influence a change in this and prevent doomsday? You could do something similar to what FFTF did for net neutrality.
    - titojankowski 9y ago
      That action list sounds great, want to continue building that out on the site. Checking out FFTF now: https://www.fightforthefuture.org https://www.fightforthefuture.org
  - safiume 9y ago
    Check out ONC's technical wiki: https://opennanocarbon.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/REF/pages/210698241/Climate+Change+Data https://opennanocarbon.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/REF/pages/2... Linked and referenced. The biggest and most immediate problem is we've put too much carbon in the air to expect the natural carbon sinks of trees, land, oceans, the biosphere, to absorb it before runaway effects start unlocking vast prehistoric amounts of carbon accelerating climate change https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/01/24/575220206/is-there-a-ticking-time-bomb-under-the-arctic https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/01/24/5752202.... The sooner we lock up carbon, the sooner we get out of the danger of having much high sea levels, and runaway global climate warming.
anigbrowl 9y ago
I disagree. I think the idea of 400ppm being a tipping point is well established, considering that years of effort were invested to raise awareness of 350ppm as a sustainable goal.
- Ancalagon 9y ago
  I think you're greatly overestimating the average person's knowledge of climate change and CO2 levels. I also don't believe that, even if awareness was completely spread, we should give up on keeping that information in the public mind and minuscule attention span.
  - anigbrowl 9y ago
    Sure, but we don't have to put everything into everything. If you overload people with information you foreclose curiosity and obscure core data and clear design with dull detail. This is a headline/embeddable tool, rather than introduction to the subject.

titojankowski 9y ago

Woa, that would be cool! Any suggestions for theoretical points you’d like to see? GitHub repo: https://github.com/giving-a-fuck-about-climate-change https://github.com/giving-a-fuck-about-climate-change

Ancalagon 9y ago
Theoretical rises in sea level, irreversible runaway effects, some actual 'doomsday' scenarios (e.g. the clathrate gun, algae blooms, jellyfish blooms, etc.) Really this would require some research. There are a lot of models, and I frankly am not sure which are more accurate.
- titojankowski 9y ago
  Yeah that sounds like a cool tool. More like Clathrate Fun! Maybe turn it into a game haha. Anything else you’re curious about regarding climate change?
  - Ancalagon 9y ago
    I also would like to see some in-your-face actionable advice for the average user. I give a fuck now about climate change, what can I do, really, to influence a change in this and prevent doomsday? You could do something similar to what FFTF did for net neutrality.
  - titojankowski 9y ago
    That action list sounds great, want to continue building that out on the site. Checking out FFTF now: https://www.fightforthefuture.org https://www.fightforthefuture.org
- safiume 9y ago
  Check out ONC's technical wiki: https://opennanocarbon.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/REF/pages/210698241/Climate+Change+Data https://opennanocarbon.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/REF/pages/2... Linked and referenced. The biggest and most immediate problem is we've put too much carbon in the air to expect the natural carbon sinks of trees, land, oceans, the biosphere, to absorb it before runaway effects start unlocking vast prehistoric amounts of carbon accelerating climate change https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/01/24/575220206/is-there-a-ticking-time-bomb-under-the-arctic https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/01/24/5752202.... The sooner we lock up carbon, the sooner we get out of the danger of having much high sea levels, and runaway global climate warming.

anigbrowl 9y ago

I disagree. I think the idea of 400ppm being a tipping point is well established, considering that years of effort were invested to raise awareness of 350ppm as a sustainable goal.

Ancalagon 9y ago
I think you're greatly overestimating the average person's knowledge of climate change and CO2 levels. I also don't believe that, even if awareness was completely spread, we should give up on keeping that information in the public mind and minuscule attention span.
- anigbrowl 9y ago
  Sure, but we don't have to put everything into everything. If you overload people with information you foreclose curiosity and obscure core data and clear design with dull detail. This is a headline/embeddable tool, rather than introduction to the subject.