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As someone who works for a company that works with the DoD, the push mentioned in the second to last paragraph is making it's way down the chain and we are seei

by dwater 9y ago

As someone who works for a company that works with the DoD, the push mentioned in the second to last paragraph is making it's way down the chain and we are seeing a greater acceptance of cloud tech. There isn't widespread adoption yet but they are open to projects moving in that direction.

geekamongus 9y ago
This was true when I left two months ago, but the challenge, for us anyway, was how we extend our security boundary to encompass cloud technology without breaking the bank. Anything managed at levels higher up and offered as a "service" typically proved to be stringent to operate inside of.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  US federal government really needs its own cloud computing agency full of stick-up-the-butt security and reliability fanatics. 99.999% availability. Formally verified code everywhere. Built on a real-time OS. Guaranteed periodic permanent backups. Anything the gummint does pretty much needs to scale immediately to 400 million users, can never experience a data breach, and needs to stay available constantly, possibly for decades, or maybe even forever. The loss of the 1890 census records by fire is still significant today. If every copy of the quarterly reports for GE from 1982 were lost, the impact would be much smaller. The current cloud service offered commercially today are plenty good enough for even some of the hugest public companies, but not quite good enough for an entity with vastly different goals and needs. The different flavor of requirements might mean that private sector business will never offer a suitable class of service. Currently, some agencies run their own data centers, so the necessary expertise certainly exists, but that is not currently contributing in any way to a common infrastructure.
  - zacharycohn 9y ago
    Something like www.cloud.gov?

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As someone who works for a company that works with the DoD, the push mentioned in the second to last paragraph is making it's way down the chain and we are seei

by dwater 9y ago

geekamongus 9y ago
This was true when I left two months ago, but the challenge, for us anyway, was how we extend our security boundary to encompass cloud technology without breaking the bank. Anything managed at levels higher up and offered as a "service" typically proved to be stringent to operate inside of.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  US federal government really needs its own cloud computing agency full of stick-up-the-butt security and reliability fanatics. 99.999% availability. Formally verified code everywhere. Built on a real-time OS. Guaranteed periodic permanent backups. Anything the gummint does pretty much needs to scale immediately to 400 million users, can never experience a data breach, and needs to stay available constantly, possibly for decades, or maybe even forever. The loss of the 1890 census records by fire is still significant today. If every copy of the quarterly reports for GE from 1982 were lost, the impact would be much smaller. The current cloud service offered commercially today are plenty good enough for even some of the hugest public companies, but not quite good enough for an entity with vastly different goals and needs. The different flavor of requirements might mean that private sector business will never offer a suitable class of service. Currently, some agencies run their own data centers, so the necessary expertise certainly exists, but that is not currently contributing in any way to a common infrastructure.
  - zacharycohn 9y ago
    Something like www.cloud.gov?