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A bit of a click bait title ? 'Parliament accepted our proposal to ask the European Commission to come forward with a recommendation that we would end the bi-a
by Gys 9y ago
A bit of a click bait title ?
'Parliament accepted our proposal to ask the European Commission to come forward with a recommendation that we would end the bi-annual clock change'
So if I understand it correctly, this is a 'proposal' 'to ask' for 'a recommendation' ?
- Svip 9y agoThat's why I titled mine 'to thoroughly reassess' and linked to a Bloomberg article. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16332264 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16332264
- SunShiranui 9y agoIf I recall correctly, the European Parliament doesn't have the power to introduce new legislation on its own. Instead, they can ask the Commission to present legislative proposals. This might be what's happening here...
- contravariant 9y agoAccording to that sentence we're past the 'proposal' stage. Now we're at 'asking for a recommendation'.
- tmoravec 9y agoWelcome to the European Union. /s
- sjwright 9y agoDunno if you're trying to be sarcastic, but at least in this instance it appears they're productively tackling a controversial, thorny, side-effect-laden subject at a sensible pace. (Edit: OP has added "/s" marker.)
- ogdoad 9y agoTo be precise: the European Union doesn't welcome you, it welcomes your petition to be welcomed by it. Lest we fail to avoid making things needlessly forth-right.
- BLanen 9y agoEuropean parliament doesn't have legislative initiative. Only the commision has it, but it listens to the parliament and other parties(member states, council).
- pcnix 9y agoYes, this seems to be just a request for a proposal. It is still promising though.
- dang 9y agoI don't speak bureaucratese but have attempted to make the title more accurate above.
- tripzilch 9y agoHey now. This happens to be how the EU does politics. We don't consider it "cool" any more to quip about being bad at math, right? Same goes imho for history, geography or foreign politics. Looking from the other side, laws and bills in the US seem to me to often have titles like "something something act", which are short, catchy but just as often as not, utterly misleading and/or meaning the opposite of what they actually do. Or blatant propaganda like "patriot act". But alas, I don't speak propagandese ...
- dang 9y agoBoth exist in all countries, of course. But it's possible to speak neither and I would hope for that here.
- Muromec 9y agoDST is in EU law, so all member states should and do have it. However this year there was a petition in Fineland to abolish DST, so Finnish Parliament asked European Parliament to drop it. European Parliament said sure and asked executive branch (Commission) to draft a law, since they can't do it themselves. Commission would draft a law, Parliament would vote on it, then Council (representatives from executive branch of Member States) would vote on it and after that Member States could drop DST if they want by whatever process they have.
- icebraining 9y agoIs the proposal to make it optional? I was in favor, now I'm not sure sure; that sounds worse than keeping everyone on it.
- tom_mellior 9y ago> Is the proposal to make it optional? No. What gave you that idea? For reference, here is the text that was adopted today: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2018-0043+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//... For the moment, you need to click on the PDF icon on the page to get the PDF version of the text, the HTML is not there yet at the moment of writing. Apart from the looong recitals, the core of the text adopted today is simply the following: The European Parliament [...] 1. Calls on the Commission to conduct a thorough assessment of Directive 2000/84/EC and, if necessary, come up with a proposal for its revision; 2. Instructs its President to forward this resolution to the Commission, the Council, and the governments and parliaments of the Member States. Edit: Oh, but one of the recitals does state that "it is crucial to maintain a unified EU time regime even after the end of biannual time changes", so I think your worry is for now unfounded.
- icebraining 9y agoWhat gave me the idea was parent's post ("Member States could drop DST if they want"). Thanks for the reference, that's reassuring!