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https://qntm.org/abolish https://qntm.org/abolish Mandatory read every time this comes up.

by pluma 9y ago

kuschku 9y ago
Which completely misses culture-based time differences (depending on culture, in Europe, two neighboring countries in the same time zone may have 3 hours difference in usual working hours) and mismatched timezones (half a china has a timezone 5 hours off from their local time) Look at this map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Standard_World_Time_Zones.png/1920px-Standard_World_Time_Zones.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/St... the timezones already are all over the place. What you think of as 4:25 can be 9:25 or 23:25 thanks to timezone mismatches.
- pluma 9y ago
  That's an argument for more timezones, not less.
danesparza 9y ago
Your link indicates you may misunderstand the original article. They aren't abolishing timezones. They are considering removing the 'shift' that happens twice a year.
- icebraining 9y ago
  pluma is not replying to the original article, but to the post by okket.
yorwba 9y ago
The obvious solution to the problem described there is the following: You: "Big Brother, call Uncle Steve." Big Brother: "I can't let you do that; Uncle Steve is sleeping right now. I will tell him when he gets up. I suggest passing the time with Praised be Our Glorious Overlords. Your uncle enjoyed it very much." Then it doesn't even matter whether there are time zones or not.
tzs 9y ago
Note that the problems there come from abolishing time zones, not from using UTC everywhere. We can switch clocks to UTC and keep time zones. As long as people roughly sync activities to local solar time and interact with people whose local solar time is significantly different there will be a need for time zones. This is almost completely independent of how our clocks are set.

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https://qntm.org/abolish https://qntm.org/abolish Mandatory read every time this comes up.

by pluma 9y ago

https://qntm.org/abolish https://qntm.org/abolish Mandatory read every time this comes up.

kuschku 9y ago
Which completely misses culture-based time differences (depending on culture, in Europe, two neighboring countries in the same time zone may have 3 hours difference in usual working hours) and mismatched timezones (half a china has a timezone 5 hours off from their local time) Look at this map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Standard_World_Time_Zones.png/1920px-Standard_World_Time_Zones.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/St... the timezones already are all over the place. What you think of as 4:25 can be 9:25 or 23:25 thanks to timezone mismatches.
- pluma 9y ago
  That's an argument for more timezones, not less.
danesparza 9y ago
Your link indicates you may misunderstand the original article. They aren't abolishing timezones. They are considering removing the 'shift' that happens twice a year.
- icebraining 9y ago
  pluma is not replying to the original article, but to the post by okket.
yorwba 9y ago
The obvious solution to the problem described there is the following: You: "Big Brother, call Uncle Steve." Big Brother: "I can't let you do that; Uncle Steve is sleeping right now. I will tell him when he gets up. I suggest passing the time with Praised be Our Glorious Overlords. Your uncle enjoyed it very much." Then it doesn't even matter whether there are time zones or not.
tzs 9y ago
Note that the problems there come from abolishing time zones, not from using UTC everywhere. We can switch clocks to UTC and keep time zones. As long as people roughly sync activities to local solar time and interact with people whose local solar time is significantly different there will be a need for time zones. This is almost completely independent of how our clocks are set.