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This is what Turkey recently did, but this has no sense in my opinion. If you want something that's happening at 8 AM to be like 7 AM, why not just do it on 7 A

by kozak 9y ago

This is what Turkey recently did, but this has no sense in my opinion. If you want something that's happening at 8 AM to be like 7 AM, why not just do it on 7 AM?

tome 9y ago
Inertia. Most things will work to the time of 9-5 (or whatever) regardless. It's a fine plan for individuals. It's not fine when you want to interact with anyone else.
- bryanlarsen 9y ago
  It's the 9-5 that's silly. If noon is mid-day, then why 3 hours of morning and 5 of afternoon? Construction workers and other outside workers have this figured out: 7-3 makes a heck of a lot more sense. Use that gorgeous afternoon sun for your leisure time.
  - vuln 9y ago
    The reason out side workers start early and end early is to avoid the hottest portion of the day.
    - baud147258 9y ago
      It does not make any sense during winter, but because of inertia, they keep the same schedule as the rest of the year.
  - tluyben2 9y ago
    I would be sleeping in that case in that gorgeous afternoon. As a night owl I always detested waking up early, no matter what timezone. When travelling, once the jetlag is gone, I again wake up 10 am and sleep at 2-3 am. I like my days like that. I tried what you say and it does not work for me; 8:30-9 is a reasonable compromise. Seems getting up later, taking a longer afternoon break but working later at night meshes with the partners/ companies we work with in Portugal, India and China; all of their offices start about 10, 11 all are there and they work till 2100 with a 2 hour lunchbreak. I for one have almost never set an alarm since high school (and at least in my uni the interesting profs also preferred late mornings and nights) and if definitely makes me feel more rested. It is personal but do not think everyone just gets used to it; like said, I tried and I know many who tried because somehow it might convenient and failed. Like in high school I had to get on my bike at 7 but I would just fall asleep in all classes after lunch while I do never have that if I shift my time; I sleep the same number of hours in both cases but I guess my brain does not accept waking in the dark for some reason.
    - bryanlarsen 9y ago
      I used to think I was a night owl. It turns out that I was just highly sensitive to caffeine, moderately sensitive to blue light and young. Remove all three factors, and it turns out I'm a severe lark. It's still quite likely you're an owl, but I recommend trying to get rid of anything that's making it worse for you.
      - tluyben2 9y ago
        You have a point and it does help not drinking coffee but I just feel like crap if I wake when it's dark outside. While if I drink coffee in the afternoon it's fine. I have had this for many years and I have experimented with it (like I mentioned as well) but getting up before 9-10 just makes me feel like shit while getting up after doesn't. When there is strong sun outside when I wake, then I feel fittest when waking up. When it rains or is dark and there is a lot of artificial, especially tl, light around, like an office early in the morning on a rainy day, I feel ill for hours. Always have. It passes after around 10 if it stays dark outside. So why not then just wake after 10 in the first place, it's not like i'm productive in that phase... It's just like working with someone in a slightly different timezone, no-one I ever met cared about it and actually most my colleagues have had the same or similar issues with getting up early.

by kozak 9y ago

This is what Turkey recently did, but this has no sense in my opinion. If you want something that's happening at 8 AM to be like 7 AM, why not just do it on 7 AM?

tome 9y ago

Inertia. Most things will work to the time of 9-5 (or whatever) regardless. It's a fine plan for individuals. It's not fine when you want to interact with anyone else.

bryanlarsen 9y ago
It's the 9-5 that's silly. If noon is mid-day, then why 3 hours of morning and 5 of afternoon? Construction workers and other outside workers have this figured out: 7-3 makes a heck of a lot more sense. Use that gorgeous afternoon sun for your leisure time.
- vuln 9y ago
  The reason out side workers start early and end early is to avoid the hottest portion of the day.
  - baud147258 9y ago
    It does not make any sense during winter, but because of inertia, they keep the same schedule as the rest of the year.
- tluyben2 9y ago
  I would be sleeping in that case in that gorgeous afternoon. As a night owl I always detested waking up early, no matter what timezone. When travelling, once the jetlag is gone, I again wake up 10 am and sleep at 2-3 am. I like my days like that. I tried what you say and it does not work for me; 8:30-9 is a reasonable compromise. Seems getting up later, taking a longer afternoon break but working later at night meshes with the partners/ companies we work with in Portugal, India and China; all of their offices start about 10, 11 all are there and they work till 2100 with a 2 hour lunchbreak. I for one have almost never set an alarm since high school (and at least in my uni the interesting profs also preferred late mornings and nights) and if definitely makes me feel more rested. It is personal but do not think everyone just gets used to it; like said, I tried and I know many who tried because somehow it might convenient and failed. Like in high school I had to get on my bike at 7 but I would just fall asleep in all classes after lunch while I do never have that if I shift my time; I sleep the same number of hours in both cases but I guess my brain does not accept waking in the dark for some reason.
  - bryanlarsen 9y ago
    I used to think I was a night owl. It turns out that I was just highly sensitive to caffeine, moderately sensitive to blue light and young. Remove all three factors, and it turns out I'm a severe lark. It's still quite likely you're an owl, but I recommend trying to get rid of anything that's making it worse for you.
    - tluyben2 9y ago
      You have a point and it does help not drinking coffee but I just feel like crap if I wake when it's dark outside. While if I drink coffee in the afternoon it's fine. I have had this for many years and I have experimented with it (like I mentioned as well) but getting up before 9-10 just makes me feel like shit while getting up after doesn't. When there is strong sun outside when I wake, then I feel fittest when waking up. When it rains or is dark and there is a lot of artificial, especially tl, light around, like an office early in the morning on a rainy day, I feel ill for hours. Always have. It passes after around 10 if it stays dark outside. So why not then just wake after 10 in the first place, it's not like i'm productive in that phase... It's just like working with someone in a slightly different timezone, no-one I ever met cared about it and actually most my colleagues have had the same or similar issues with getting up early.