> tends to concentrate around the same tools It's pretty easy to point out the huge players in most ecosystems I feel like. Can't think of any languages that a

> tends to concentrate around the same tools It's pretty easy to point out the huge players in most ecosystems I feel like. Can't think of any languages that are a counterexample. That's not necessarily a bad thing - lots of mind share helps systems get better on the average. I think Clojure has less in the way of ecosystem-dominating frameworks than is usual as far as web frameworks go. Clojure is pretty unique in that the ecosystem is very much not one-size-fits-all. http://www.luminusweb.net/ http://www.luminusweb.net/ is a great example of the clojure philosophy of bundling together a variety of uncoupled components to get a great dev experience. It even has a variety of CLI init options to swap out different components for your preference (https://github.com/luminus-framework/luminus-template https://github.com/luminus-framework/luminus-template)