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But who's forcing the Funny or Die guy to put content on Facebook?

by ndh2 9y ago

Joeboy 9y ago
Nobody, but if they didn't then somebody else would put their content on Facebook and claim the income.
- anoonmoose 9y ago
  Isn't that already illegal with proscribed legal remedies?
  - Joeboy 9y ago
    It's copyright infringement, but that doesn't make it not the case. TBF I'm not entirely sure what the current play is with Facebook and freebooting. Last I knew it seemed like creating original content was extremely financially disincentivized compared to just reuploading other people's.
- fnl 9y ago
  What about YouTube? I hear people can make a living off that with 100s of thousands of viewers or more - note sure that's Funny or Die's league, though?
- jasode 9y ago
  How does somebody like NetFlix deal with it? (E.g. a half hour show Standups.[1]) Does a pirate post the Netflix clip and therefore Facebook+pirate make money off of it? Or does Netflix issue a DMCA takedown so fast that it's a non issue? (I realize that FunnyOrDie is voluntarily placing their show on the Facebook platform (and also paying Facebook to place their content there) ... but let's hypothesize what options FunnyOrDie has to keep their content off of Facebook.) [1] https://www.netflix.com/title/80175685 https://www.netflix.com/title/80175685
  - Joeboy 9y ago
    I guess either Netflix's legal department gets on it or, more likely, the reuploader makes money off it. According to [1], "Of the videos on Facebook, 72.5% are pirated. “According to a recent report from Ogilvy and Tubular Labs, of the 1,000 most popular Facebook videos of Q1 2015, 725 were stolen reuploads,” says Hank Green. “Just these 725 ‘freebooted’ videos were responsible for around 17 BILLION views last quarter.” Admittedly that's 2015, entirely unfactchecked by me and (I've just learned) Facebook now has some new rights management tools, not sure how the land lies right now. [1] https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/facebook-freebooting-what-marketers-need-to-know/ https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/facebook-freebooting-wha...
    - deadbunny 9y ago
      They are doing exactly what YouTube did to begin with, "suffer" high levels of piracy to get people using the platform, slowly bring in tools to combat the piracy.
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But who's forcing the Funny or Die guy to put content on Facebook?

by ndh2 9y ago

But who's forcing the Funny or Die guy to put content on Facebook?

Joeboy 9y ago

Nobody, but if they didn't then somebody else would put their content on Facebook and claim the income.

anoonmoose 9y ago
Isn't that already illegal with proscribed legal remedies?
- Joeboy 9y ago
  It's copyright infringement, but that doesn't make it not the case. TBF I'm not entirely sure what the current play is with Facebook and freebooting. Last I knew it seemed like creating original content was extremely financially disincentivized compared to just reuploading other people's.
fnl 9y ago
What about YouTube? I hear people can make a living off that with 100s of thousands of viewers or more - note sure that's Funny or Die's league, though?
jasode 9y ago
How does somebody like NetFlix deal with it? (E.g. a half hour show Standups.[1]) Does a pirate post the Netflix clip and therefore Facebook+pirate make money off of it? Or does Netflix issue a DMCA takedown so fast that it's a non issue? (I realize that FunnyOrDie is voluntarily placing their show on the Facebook platform (and also paying Facebook to place their content there) ... but let's hypothesize what options FunnyOrDie has to keep their content off of Facebook.) [1] https://www.netflix.com/title/80175685 https://www.netflix.com/title/80175685
- Joeboy 9y ago
  I guess either Netflix's legal department gets on it or, more likely, the reuploader makes money off it. According to [1], "Of the videos on Facebook, 72.5% are pirated. “According to a recent report from Ogilvy and Tubular Labs, of the 1,000 most popular Facebook videos of Q1 2015, 725 were stolen reuploads,” says Hank Green. “Just these 725 ‘freebooted’ videos were responsible for around 17 BILLION views last quarter.” Admittedly that's 2015, entirely unfactchecked by me and (I've just learned) Facebook now has some new rights management tools, not sure how the land lies right now. [1] https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/facebook-freebooting-what-marketers-need-to-know/ https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/facebook-freebooting-wha...
  - deadbunny 9y ago
    They are doing exactly what YouTube did to begin with, "suffer" high levels of piracy to get people using the platform, slowly bring in tools to combat the piracy.
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