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Really? Go to any science-related forum. Anybody who demonstrates ignorance risks ridicule and vitriol. > willful ignorance? Who gets on "the wrong side" of sc

Really? Go to any science-related forum. Anybody who demonstrates ignorance risks ridicule and vitriol. > willful ignorance? Who gets on "the wrong side" of science without promoting a position they are incapable of verifying? This smacks strongly of "stop hitting yourself". What constitutes bullying is in the eye of the victim, not the perpetrator.

Chris2048 9y ago
> What constitutes bullying is in the eye of the victim So anyone has a right to feel opressed? Smacks of privalige.. You want vitriol? Try being on the wrong side of religion.
- austinjp 9y ago
  Nobody mentioned the "right to feel oppressed", that's an odd strawman. The point is quite straightforward, not controversial: If you listen only to the bully you clearly won't hear the victim's story. If you refuse to consider that a person who says they are a victim of bullying is indeed a victim of bullying then you perpetuate the silencing of that person, and enable the bully. I doubt you'd disagree? Do we disagree on whether proponents of science can be bullies? It would seem remarkable if they were immune. Comparing science vs religion to determine who is worse regarding vitriol is a complete waste of time, and another strawman.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    > Nobody mentioned the "right to feel oppressed" You said "What constitutes bullying is in the eye of the victim". So anyone can decide that they are a victim. > Do we disagree on whether proponents of science can be bullies? Thus is a actual straw Man. How does this relate to a kid wearing a slogan t-shirt? > Comparing science vs religion to determine who is worse regarding vitriol is a complete waste of time, and another strawman. No it isn't; you are the one who talked about vitriol, and balances of power; Just because you don't like a point, doesn't make it a "strawman".

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Really? Go to any science-related forum. Anybody who demonstrates ignorance risks ridicule and vitriol. > willful ignorance? Who gets on "the wrong side" of sc

by austinjp 9y ago

Chris2048 9y ago
> What constitutes bullying is in the eye of the victim So anyone has a right to feel opressed? Smacks of privalige.. You want vitriol? Try being on the wrong side of religion.
- austinjp 9y ago
  Nobody mentioned the "right to feel oppressed", that's an odd strawman. The point is quite straightforward, not controversial: If you listen only to the bully you clearly won't hear the victim's story. If you refuse to consider that a person who says they are a victim of bullying is indeed a victim of bullying then you perpetuate the silencing of that person, and enable the bully. I doubt you'd disagree? Do we disagree on whether proponents of science can be bullies? It would seem remarkable if they were immune. Comparing science vs religion to determine who is worse regarding vitriol is a complete waste of time, and another strawman.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    > Nobody mentioned the "right to feel oppressed" You said "What constitutes bullying is in the eye of the victim". So anyone can decide that they are a victim. > Do we disagree on whether proponents of science can be bullies? Thus is a actual straw Man. How does this relate to a kid wearing a slogan t-shirt? > Comparing science vs religion to determine who is worse regarding vitriol is a complete waste of time, and another strawman. No it isn't; you are the one who talked about vitriol, and balances of power; Just because you don't like a point, doesn't make it a "strawman".