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"for equal work" you missed the most important line. This paper is showing that they are not doing equal work. Not time wise nor trip wise.

by Geeek 9y ago

danjoc 9y ago
Women are making less money driving the same amount of time. The easiest fix is to pay women more. The technical fix is to auto report speeders (mostly men) to the cops for automated tickets. Since we're all about upholding the law here, Uber knows they are speeding and putting people at risk for a few bucks. Uber should report them to the authorities for proper penalties.
- Geeek 9y ago
  You really should read the paper. One of the factors influencing their pay is the amount of time spent driving, so no, they are not "driving the same amount of time". Secondly, nowhere does it say they are going above the speed limit only that they drive speedier.
  - danjoc 9y ago
    An hour in the car is an hour in the car. It's the same amount of time. I'm not saying that women spend more hours in the car than men. Don't be deliberately obtuse. According to the paper, 50% of the wage gap is due to driving speed alone. The conclusion is that men are speeding more frequently than women. To level the playing field, all speeders could be auto reported to the proper authorities. Or, you know, just pay women more. It's a non-technical solution which requires no programming. Personally, I'd like to see Uber speeders reported/ticketed automatically. Uber is hiding evidence of institutionalized crime from the authorities, again. It's an old story at this point.
    - T2_t2 9y ago
      That's... not what it says dude. > The conclusion is that men are speeding more frequently than women. Prove it! I'm not American, but I am pretty sure that the average speed of 19.532 mph for men and 18.760 for women makes speeding an unlikely explanation without some evidence I just can't see. Can you point me to where breaking laws is the explanation?
      - danjoc 9y ago
        >Prove it! I'm not American LOL You just discredited yourself. Everybody speeds in the US. To the point that obeying the speed limit can be quite dangerous in some cases. Therefore, both men and women are speeding, but men are taking greater risks, speeding more. That's a problem, because a small increase in speed produces a large increase in kinetic energy. It's velocity squared: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy The men are profiting by having a greater willingness to put their passengers and other drivers on the road in fatal danger. They are all breaking the law, but the men are more brazen about it. Uber should solve this, because it is a serious problem. If you only look at the payment aspect, that is demonstrably easy to solve. Pay women more. Very easy. If you want to solve the root problem, and not a symptom of the problem, then Uber needs to tackle the problem of drivers speeding. Automatic reporting of speeders is one approach. Another is to remove drivers from the pool of available drivers for any ill gotten time they gained by breaking the law. Save one minute with your fare because you drove 80MPH in a 70MPH zone on the freeway? Then make the driver invisible in app for one minute (or more) after dropping off the fare. There should be some cost imposed for breaking the law proportional to how fast the driver was going. Frankly, society has a cost assigned to this already. They're called speeding tickets, and I see Uber drivers who should get them regularly. What will Uber do when they switch to autonomous cars? Make the robots speed too? Given their willingness to break the law so brazenly as a company, I would not be surprised if this is what they do.

"for equal work" you missed the most important line. This paper is showing that they are not doing equal work. Not time wise nor trip wise.

by Geeek 9y ago

"for equal work" you missed the most important line. This paper is showing that they are not doing equal work. Not time wise nor trip wise.

danjoc 9y ago

Women are making less money driving the same amount of time. The easiest fix is to pay women more. The technical fix is to auto report speeders (mostly men) to the cops for automated tickets. Since we're all about upholding the law here, Uber knows they are speeding and putting people at risk for a few bucks. Uber should report them to the authorities for proper penalties.

Geeek 9y ago
You really should read the paper. One of the factors influencing their pay is the amount of time spent driving, so no, they are not "driving the same amount of time". Secondly, nowhere does it say they are going above the speed limit only that they drive speedier.
- danjoc 9y ago
  An hour in the car is an hour in the car. It's the same amount of time. I'm not saying that women spend more hours in the car than men. Don't be deliberately obtuse. According to the paper, 50% of the wage gap is due to driving speed alone. The conclusion is that men are speeding more frequently than women. To level the playing field, all speeders could be auto reported to the proper authorities. Or, you know, just pay women more. It's a non-technical solution which requires no programming. Personally, I'd like to see Uber speeders reported/ticketed automatically. Uber is hiding evidence of institutionalized crime from the authorities, again. It's an old story at this point.
  - T2_t2 9y ago
    That's... not what it says dude. > The conclusion is that men are speeding more frequently than women. Prove it! I'm not American, but I am pretty sure that the average speed of 19.532 mph for men and 18.760 for women makes speeding an unlikely explanation without some evidence I just can't see. Can you point me to where breaking laws is the explanation?
    - danjoc 9y ago
      >Prove it! I'm not American LOL You just discredited yourself. Everybody speeds in the US. To the point that obeying the speed limit can be quite dangerous in some cases. Therefore, both men and women are speeding, but men are taking greater risks, speeding more. That's a problem, because a small increase in speed produces a large increase in kinetic energy. It's velocity squared: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy The men are profiting by having a greater willingness to put their passengers and other drivers on the road in fatal danger. They are all breaking the law, but the men are more brazen about it. Uber should solve this, because it is a serious problem. If you only look at the payment aspect, that is demonstrably easy to solve. Pay women more. Very easy. If you want to solve the root problem, and not a symptom of the problem, then Uber needs to tackle the problem of drivers speeding. Automatic reporting of speeders is one approach. Another is to remove drivers from the pool of available drivers for any ill gotten time they gained by breaking the law. Save one minute with your fare because you drove 80MPH in a 70MPH zone on the freeway? Then make the driver invisible in app for one minute (or more) after dropping off the fare. There should be some cost imposed for breaking the law proportional to how fast the driver was going. Frankly, society has a cost assigned to this already. They're called speeding tickets, and I see Uber drivers who should get them regularly. What will Uber do when they switch to autonomous cars? Make the robots speed too? Given their willingness to break the law so brazenly as a company, I would not be surprised if this is what they do.