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Data is not the whole picture. Maybe more protein is great for adding muscle mass, and bad for a different reason... The article lists beef as it's first sourc

by wppick 9y ago

Data is not the whole picture. Maybe more protein is great for adding muscle mass, and bad for a different reason... The article lists beef as it's first source of protein besides protein shakes. Beef is a class 2A carcinogen. I stopped reading there.

always_good 9y ago
"On the other hand, any form of protein is likely to be effective, it concludes, not merely high-protein shakes and supplements. Beef, chicken, yogurt and even protein from peas or quinoa could help us to build larger and stronger muscles." That's really the part you took issue with? That's a list of protein examples, not "it's first source of protein." It even says "any form of protein is likely to be effective." Fake HN outrage? It goes on to say "On the other hand and conveniently, any type of and time for protein was fine. The gains were similar if people downed their protein immediately after a workout or in the hours earlier or later, and it made no difference if the protein was solid or liquid, soy, beef, vegan or any other."
- erikpukinskis 9y ago
  Was your OP outraged?
xupybd 9y ago
I saw "Beef is a class 2A carcinogen" and suspect you just watched "What the health"? If so there are claims that that movie got a few things wrong. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-with-an-agenda/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-wit...
- xupybd 9y ago
  Also class 2A carcinogens are simply a class of things that probably increases your chance of cancer. That doesn't mean it gives you a huge chance of cancer most of the time the increased risk is trivial. To give some context red meat is on the same list as: Hairdresser or barber (occupational exposure as a) Shift work that involves circadian disruption Very hot beverages (more than 65℃) High-temperature frying, emissions from Household combustion of biomass fuel (primarily wood), indoor emissions from Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinogens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinog...

by wppick 9y ago

always_good 9y ago

"On the other hand, any form of protein is likely to be effective, it concludes, not merely high-protein shakes and supplements. Beef, chicken, yogurt and even protein from peas or quinoa could help us to build larger and stronger muscles." That's really the part you took issue with? That's a list of protein examples, not "it's first source of protein." It even says "any form of protein is likely to be effective." Fake HN outrage? It goes on to say "On the other hand and conveniently, any type of and time for protein was fine. The gains were similar if people downed their protein immediately after a workout or in the hours earlier or later, and it made no difference if the protein was solid or liquid, soy, beef, vegan or any other."

erikpukinskis 9y ago
Was your OP outraged?

xupybd 9y ago

I saw "Beef is a class 2A carcinogen" and suspect you just watched "What the health"? If so there are claims that that movie got a few things wrong. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-with-an-agenda/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-wit...

xupybd 9y ago
Also class 2A carcinogens are simply a class of things that probably increases your chance of cancer. That doesn't mean it gives you a huge chance of cancer most of the time the increased risk is trivial. To give some context red meat is on the same list as: Hairdresser or barber (occupational exposure as a) Shift work that involves circadian disruption Very hot beverages (more than 65℃) High-temperature frying, emissions from Household combustion of biomass fuel (primarily wood), indoor emissions from Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinogens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinog...