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As much as I don’t want to bring that particular debate here, this comment reads like anyone with conservative politics is a troll to be silenced. As someone wh
by Karunamon 9y ago
As much as I don’t want to bring that particular debate here, this comment reads like anyone with conservative politics is a troll to be silenced. As someone who doesn’t agree, please understand how offensive and unconstructive this statement is.
- eitally 9y agoBecause those subs have absolutely nothign to do with conservative politics and everything to do with alt-right echo chamber trolling. There are plenty of places you can find polite political discourse on Reddit, like these: /r/PoliticalDiscussion/ <-- the only one I sub. /r/PoliticalOpinions /r/Ask_Politics /r/NeutralPolitics /r/ChangeMyView /r/GeoPolitics /r/WorldEvents /r/PoliticalScience /r/Economics /r/Politics And for logical, not emotional political debates: /r/AskAConservative /r/AskALiberal /r/DebateCommunism /r/DebateFascism /r/LibertarianDebates /r/DebateAnarchism
- Karunamon 9y agoYou include /r/politics on that list, which as we speak, has 100% of the front page dedicated to how horrible our president is. That is the absolute opposite of “thoughtful”, certainly not polite once you get into the comments and say anything that doesn't agree with that stance. I’d give you echo chamber, but also point out that applies to most subreddits in your list, but especially to the ask_$ideology types. People celebrating their political wins isn’t trolling, neither is celebrating the losses of the other side. It might be many things, but posting to get a rise isn’t it. It doesn't even make sense - people posting in their own communities about their own ideologies doesn't meet the definition either. Who would they be trolling, themselves? Oncomers who don't agree? If the latter, that applies to every political community everywhere.
- abritinthebay 9y ago/r/politics is a bit of an echo chamber (tho really that’s due to being sick of the Donald brigades) but Trump is objectively horrible so that isn’t a good yardstick.
- Karunamon 9y agoYou make three statements here. The first is a verifiable fact, the second is an unsubstantiated falsehood, the last is an unfalsifiable opinion. That opinion, and the constant shouting of it from every rooftop and constant silencing and badgering those who think otherwise, is the reason for the existence of the_donald. This very thread has someone in it who called me a liar because I posted an image that proves botted content on the front page of /r/politics, and then I had to spend half an hour screwing around with google to debunk it. That is the online reality for anyone who doesn't viscerally hate the president, and it's become very tiresome.
- HippieJay 9y agoAll of those communities mentioned are not simply providing conservative viewpoints. The ones mentioned have coordinated harassment towards people and organizations that they disagree with.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y agoWhat you call coordinated harassment may also be called political activism. A democracy requires participation and expression to advance. Of course it can be taken too far, but organizations should be able to handle political expression.
- abritinthebay 9y agoI like talking with conservatives. I may not be one but I think it is an important political viewpoint that can have valid perspectives. But unless you’re going to say racism, bigotry, and all the rest that The Donald/alt-right bring to the table are conservative ideals I don’t see ANY way you could take what I said as espousing that.
- Karunamon 9y agoSee, the difference here is that as someone who regularly skims the top posts there (if nothing else to get away from the never-ending "trump is a baby eating puppy murderer" stories that exist literally everywhere else), I don't see the "racism and bigotry" that you're talking about.