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> Porn is just like an action movie, only it's about sex instead of guns and martial arts. It's fun, but it usually has very little to do with real sex. Except

> Porn is just like an action movie, only it's about sex instead of guns and martial arts. It's fun, but it usually has very little to do with real sex. Except in action movies, people don't take real ideas back to the bedroom and end up wanting to act them out. Porn modifies brain chemistry[0] to alter how we think about sex. Porn is a common thread in serial murderers[1]. In my own life, I've had to reprogram myself to get away from ideas that haunted me for 10+ years that hurt myself and others. Pornography is a plague. [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/brain-scans-porn-addicts-sexual-tastes https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/brain-... [1]: https://www.netnanny.com/blog/what-serial-killers-and-murderers-think-about-pornography/ https://www.netnanny.com/blog/what-serial-killers-and-murder...

ceejayoz 9y ago
> Porn is a common thread in serial murderers. So's oxygen and water intake. Citing NetNanny on this is pretty silly. Serial killers existed long before pornography was around, and I suspect you're getting correlation and causation mixed up there. Your average porn consumer manages not to cut heads off.
- nvahalik 9y ago
  Well, don't take their word for it. Go find the research: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201704/erotica-serial-killers https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201704/er... You also assume that people lead relatively normal lives with porn, but what about the subtle effects? Don't you think that the objectification of women as sexual objects or the demeaning of marriage to something that gets in the way of people's sexual pleasure has any sort of effect in a civilized society?
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    > Go find the research As with the NetNanny piece, I can't find any peer-reviewed research in that article. Just a bunch of anecdotes. I'm not sure how porn "demeans marriage".
- dsr_ 9y ago
  Pornography goes back to at least Greek times, and probably is roughly contemporaneous with the invention of art. There have been, perhaps, a few hundred serial killers? Even if all of them had seen porn, that's a few billion people who saw porn, enjoyed it, and then didn't kill anyone else.
  - dpkonofa 9y ago
    Pornography always leads people down this path where they ignore all the things that don't support demonizing it. I can't think of many things besides drugs and music that get a similar armchair evaluation from people who are always insistent they have the moral high ground. My family was never the type to stray from talking about sex (very European sensibility about it) so it was always "You're going to see porn. If any of it confuses you, ask me about it." Why can't most people be like that? It's always gotta be "Porn, movies, and video games create serial killers" while completely ignoring that there are literally millions of people that enjoy all those things and continue to be just fine, productive and mentally healthy members of society.
yorwba 9y ago
People do definitely take real ideas from martial arts movies and try to act them out (although not necessarily in the bedroom). Action movies probably also modify brain chemistry if you watch them excessively, since almost everything does. And your second link? "Do serial killers or murderers exhibit common behaviors? Based on the hundreds of crime dramas I've watched, I believe they do." Seriously?

ceejayoz 9y ago

> Porn is a common thread in serial murderers. So's oxygen and water intake. Citing NetNanny on this is pretty silly. Serial killers existed long before pornography was around, and I suspect you're getting correlation and causation mixed up there. Your average porn consumer manages not to cut heads off.

nvahalik 9y ago
Well, don't take their word for it. Go find the research: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201704/erotica-serial-killers https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201704/er... You also assume that people lead relatively normal lives with porn, but what about the subtle effects? Don't you think that the objectification of women as sexual objects or the demeaning of marriage to something that gets in the way of people's sexual pleasure has any sort of effect in a civilized society?
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  > Go find the research As with the NetNanny piece, I can't find any peer-reviewed research in that article. Just a bunch of anecdotes. I'm not sure how porn "demeans marriage".
dsr_ 9y ago
Pornography goes back to at least Greek times, and probably is roughly contemporaneous with the invention of art. There have been, perhaps, a few hundred serial killers? Even if all of them had seen porn, that's a few billion people who saw porn, enjoyed it, and then didn't kill anyone else.
- dpkonofa 9y ago
  Pornography always leads people down this path where they ignore all the things that don't support demonizing it. I can't think of many things besides drugs and music that get a similar armchair evaluation from people who are always insistent they have the moral high ground. My family was never the type to stray from talking about sex (very European sensibility about it) so it was always "You're going to see porn. If any of it confuses you, ask me about it." Why can't most people be like that? It's always gotta be "Porn, movies, and video games create serial killers" while completely ignoring that there are literally millions of people that enjoy all those things and continue to be just fine, productive and mentally healthy members of society.

yorwba 9y ago

People do definitely take real ideas from martial arts movies and try to act them out (although not necessarily in the bedroom). Action movies probably also modify brain chemistry if you watch them excessively, since almost everything does. And your second link? "Do serial killers or murderers exhibit common behaviors? Based on the hundreds of crime dramas I've watched, I believe they do." Seriously?