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And my nightmares now have new fuel.

by sparrish 9y ago

rayalez 9y ago
Note that it's only 2.5mm long. Though it does remind me of that facehugger from aliens.
- locrelite 9y ago
  Right?
- chocolatebunny 9y ago
  2.5mm is the perfect size to crawl into your mouth while you sleep.
  - IntronExon 9y ago
    Midnight snack is ok by me, but in my ear? Aiiiieeee!
DoofusOfDeath 9y ago
If you'd like to keep things in perspective, go back and watch some videos involving Japanese giant hornets (shudder).
kbenson 9y ago
At some point, after we start unlocking more secrets of the brain, we're going to understand how some shapes and biological attributes have been instinctively ingrained in our brains. Then Hollywood will have some scientific basis to proceed from to make some true nightmare fuel that ticks all the right horrible boxes.
- sevenfive 9y ago
  It's not hard to just guess. What is a spider? Radial lines that move.
  - kbenson 9y ago
    I posted that after viewing this[1] from the article. I would say there's quite a bit more there going on that gives me the heebie jeebies than just radial lines that move. 1: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/02/06/science/06OBS-ARACHNID2/06OBS-ARACHNID2-superJumbo.jpg https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/02/06/science/06OBS-ARA...
    - sevenfive 9y ago
      Maybe.. radial lines with sharp angles? Whatever it is, it has to be a fairly simple combination of geometric primitives.
- hawktheslayer 9y ago
  I agree with you, and this reminds me of the Black Mirror Playtest episode where, (spoiler alert), they create an artificially intelligent game that adapts itself to maximize terror. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playtest_(Black_Mirror) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playtest_(Black_Mirror)
  - spike021 9y ago
    This reminds me of the Mind Game from Ender's Game: http://enderverse.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Game http://enderverse.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Game Not necessarily terror, per se, but it generated itself based on the imagination and interests of the characters IIRC.
  - kbenson 9y ago
    That episode was more disturbing than most. I can't imagine signing up for something as horrible as that. It's literally torture as described in 1984, but worse.
- rm_-rf_slash 9y ago
  Hayao Miyazaki had a scathing critique of a team that created a neural network designed to draw/animate on its own. It’s worth noting because his main criticism is that the more we offload these techniques to machines, we lose an element of creativity in ourselves. Videos only two minutes but even that little time of ripping into the team that made the NN is hard to watch. https://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/12/that-time-miyazaki-absolutely-shat-on-ai/ https://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/12/that-time-miyazaki-absolut...
  - matte_black 9y ago
    I see no value in a machine that draws pictures like a human except to shovel monstrous quantities of mass produced crap to further starve the masses of any attention span. If the future of entertainment is plugging in a bunch of parameters and spitting out some optimal result that appeals to some demographic, a practice that we can almost see fully realized today except for the part where machines create all the content, then there will be no new entertainment worth consuming in the future. NN generated books, movies, shows, paintings, all worthless. It's the maximum viable version of youtube videos made for children that are cobbled together with a bunch of random assets, so that perhaps a baby will stay quiet and maybe click some ads.
    - heyitsguay 9y ago
      The future value of NNs for creative media is in human productivity enhancement, not in replacement. Speedier asset generation, probably new procedural content, new image filter techniques. Personally I'm very excited to see what humans will be able to do with all of our new tools.
      - matte_black 9y ago
        None of those things require NN.
        rm_-rf_slash 9y ago
        You could set a scene on a “city street” or “small town street” or “country road” and have the NN make the setting without it having to be drawn by hand. After all, movie studios already do something to that effect. When I was in Rochester a few years back they were using a few streets to film action scenes for Spider-Man 3, which would have been far more expensive in New York and hardly anybody would have noticed the difference.
- tracker1 9y ago
  I don't know... The Mist, and the bug pit in the Kong movie with Jack Black are pretty close to my nightmares come to life.
- Parcissons 9y ago
  Its more- its even in sound- remember how the explosions in Terminator where improved with a lions roar or a cheetah-hiss. Danger signaling at its finest.
- tzs 9y ago
  Also taken to new heights (or depths, depending on viewpoint) by this will be Japanese game shows and "enhanced interrogation".
matte_black 9y ago
Just add wings.
maxxxxx 9y ago
At 2.5mm size you would probably wouldn't even notice if this thing attacked you.
labster 9y ago
And now I have a great idea for a "random" encounter in the next gaming session I run.

And my nightmares now have new fuel.

rayalez 9y ago

Note that it's only 2.5mm long. Though it does remind me of that facehugger from aliens.

locrelite 9y ago
Right?
chocolatebunny 9y ago
2.5mm is the perfect size to crawl into your mouth while you sleep.
- IntronExon 9y ago
  Midnight snack is ok by me, but in my ear? Aiiiieeee!

DoofusOfDeath 9y ago

If you'd like to keep things in perspective, go back and watch some videos involving Japanese giant hornets (shudder).

kbenson 9y ago

At some point, after we start unlocking more secrets of the brain, we're going to understand how some shapes and biological attributes have been instinctively ingrained in our brains. Then Hollywood will have some scientific basis to proceed from to make some true nightmare fuel that ticks all the right horrible boxes.

sevenfive 9y ago
It's not hard to just guess. What is a spider? Radial lines that move.
- kbenson 9y ago
  I posted that after viewing this[1] from the article. I would say there's quite a bit more there going on that gives me the heebie jeebies than just radial lines that move. 1: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/02/06/science/06OBS-ARACHNID2/06OBS-ARACHNID2-superJumbo.jpg https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/02/06/science/06OBS-ARA...
  - sevenfive 9y ago
    Maybe.. radial lines with sharp angles? Whatever it is, it has to be a fairly simple combination of geometric primitives.
hawktheslayer 9y ago
I agree with you, and this reminds me of the Black Mirror Playtest episode where, (spoiler alert), they create an artificially intelligent game that adapts itself to maximize terror. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playtest_(Black_Mirror) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playtest_(Black_Mirror)
- spike021 9y ago
  This reminds me of the Mind Game from Ender's Game: http://enderverse.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Game http://enderverse.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Game Not necessarily terror, per se, but it generated itself based on the imagination and interests of the characters IIRC.
- kbenson 9y ago
  That episode was more disturbing than most. I can't imagine signing up for something as horrible as that. It's literally torture as described in 1984, but worse.
rm_-rf_slash 9y ago
Hayao Miyazaki had a scathing critique of a team that created a neural network designed to draw/animate on its own. It’s worth noting because his main criticism is that the more we offload these techniques to machines, we lose an element of creativity in ourselves. Videos only two minutes but even that little time of ripping into the team that made the NN is hard to watch. https://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/12/that-time-miyazaki-absolutely-shat-on-ai/ https://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/12/that-time-miyazaki-absolut...
- matte_black 9y ago
  I see no value in a machine that draws pictures like a human except to shovel monstrous quantities of mass produced crap to further starve the masses of any attention span. If the future of entertainment is plugging in a bunch of parameters and spitting out some optimal result that appeals to some demographic, a practice that we can almost see fully realized today except for the part where machines create all the content, then there will be no new entertainment worth consuming in the future. NN generated books, movies, shows, paintings, all worthless. It's the maximum viable version of youtube videos made for children that are cobbled together with a bunch of random assets, so that perhaps a baby will stay quiet and maybe click some ads.
  - heyitsguay 9y ago
    The future value of NNs for creative media is in human productivity enhancement, not in replacement. Speedier asset generation, probably new procedural content, new image filter techniques. Personally I'm very excited to see what humans will be able to do with all of our new tools.
    - matte_black 9y ago
      None of those things require NN.
      - rm_-rf_slash 9y ago
        You could set a scene on a “city street” or “small town street” or “country road” and have the NN make the setting without it having to be drawn by hand. After all, movie studios already do something to that effect. When I was in Rochester a few years back they were using a few streets to film action scenes for Spider-Man 3, which would have been far more expensive in New York and hardly anybody would have noticed the difference.
tracker1 9y ago
I don't know... The Mist, and the bug pit in the Kong movie with Jack Black are pretty close to my nightmares come to life.
Parcissons 9y ago
Its more- its even in sound- remember how the explosions in Terminator where improved with a lions roar or a cheetah-hiss. Danger signaling at its finest.
tzs 9y ago
Also taken to new heights (or depths, depending on viewpoint) by this will be Japanese game shows and "enhanced interrogation".

matte_black 9y ago

Just add wings.

maxxxxx 9y ago

At 2.5mm size you would probably wouldn't even notice if this thing attacked you.

labster 9y ago

And now I have a great idea for a "random" encounter in the next gaming session I run.