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This is a great primer on car hacking, but in my opinion it focuses a lot on the "physical layer". My bet would be that the future is going to be based in thin

This is a great primer on car hacking, but in my opinion it focuses a lot on the "physical layer". My bet would be that the future is going to be based in things like what Comma.ai is building upon what the book describes.

TeMPOraL 9y ago
Wait. People keep mentioning Comma.AI. Didn't they die, after failing to go all Uber on transportation safety, followed by the founder throwing a tantrum?
- donclark 9y ago
  They are still around developing electronics or products for specific models of autos. Is their goal to provide a low-end device that will do automatic driving (at what level)? https://comma.ai/ https://comma.ai/ Edit: spelling
  - asteli 9y ago
    it looks like they're targeting the hobbyist market -- the couple hundred people worldwide who want to roll their own self-driving car.
- ingenieroariel 9y ago
  I also thought they were going to die but they kept on and have been contributing a lot to the pool of public knowledge about these things. In particular, their opendbc repo, the stripped down version of Android and the cabana sniffing tool.
- zodPod 9y ago
  I thought they had just moved their ops to China because there were less regulations?
cptskippy 9y ago
> the future is going to be based in things like what Comma.ai is building upon what the book describes. As a native English speaker I'm not sure I understand what you've said there.
- XaspR8d 9y ago
  Yeah that's a pretty nested sentence: > (The future) (is going to be) (based in (things like (what (Comma.ai) (is building upon) (what (the book) (describes))))) I interpreted it to mean: > The future will have many products similar to those made by the company Comma.ai. Comma.ai creates technology on top of the hardware described by this book.
  - wolfgang42 9y ago
    It's so badly nested that even with parentheses it's hard to follow. Here's a version with indentation, which is marginally better. (This sort of thing is what the concept of cyclomatic complexity was invented to prevent.) (The future) (is going to be) (based in (things like (what (Comma.ai) (is building upon) (what (the book) (describes) ) ) ) )
    - pantulis 9y ago
      I’m not a native English speaker Yes, the writing was horrible, sorry for that. I could do better.
      - spapas82 9y ago
        I am also a non-native english speaker(I am greek) but I immediately understood your sentence. I didnt even have to think about it! So don't feel bad!
commaai 9y ago
If you think we are dead you clearly don't follow us on Twitter. https://twitter.com/comma_ai https://twitter.com/comma_ai
- RealityVoid 9y ago
  Glad to see you guys are still kicking, I have a friend that follows you and says you're doing really cool work.
- severeFever 9y ago
  go non profit and create "open source vehicle" certification and lobby in local communities to ban autonomous driving of cars in their communities unless they have the cert.,

TeMPOraL 9y ago

Wait. People keep mentioning Comma.AI. Didn't they die, after failing to go all Uber on transportation safety, followed by the founder throwing a tantrum?

donclark 9y ago
They are still around developing electronics or products for specific models of autos. Is their goal to provide a low-end device that will do automatic driving (at what level)? https://comma.ai/ https://comma.ai/ Edit: spelling
- asteli 9y ago
  it looks like they're targeting the hobbyist market -- the couple hundred people worldwide who want to roll their own self-driving car.
ingenieroariel 9y ago
I also thought they were going to die but they kept on and have been contributing a lot to the pool of public knowledge about these things. In particular, their opendbc repo, the stripped down version of Android and the cabana sniffing tool.
zodPod 9y ago
I thought they had just moved their ops to China because there were less regulations?

cptskippy 9y ago

> the future is going to be based in things like what Comma.ai is building upon what the book describes. As a native English speaker I'm not sure I understand what you've said there.

XaspR8d 9y ago
Yeah that's a pretty nested sentence: > (The future) (is going to be) (based in (things like (what (Comma.ai) (is building upon) (what (the book) (describes))))) I interpreted it to mean: > The future will have many products similar to those made by the company Comma.ai. Comma.ai creates technology on top of the hardware described by this book.
- wolfgang42 9y ago
  It's so badly nested that even with parentheses it's hard to follow. Here's a version with indentation, which is marginally better. (This sort of thing is what the concept of cyclomatic complexity was invented to prevent.) (The future) (is going to be) (based in (things like (what (Comma.ai) (is building upon) (what (the book) (describes) ) ) ) )
  - pantulis 9y ago
    I’m not a native English speaker Yes, the writing was horrible, sorry for that. I could do better.
    - spapas82 9y ago
      I am also a non-native english speaker(I am greek) but I immediately understood your sentence. I didnt even have to think about it! So don't feel bad!

commaai 9y ago

If you think we are dead you clearly don't follow us on Twitter. https://twitter.com/comma_ai https://twitter.com/comma_ai

RealityVoid 9y ago
Glad to see you guys are still kicking, I have a friend that follows you and says you're doing really cool work.
severeFever 9y ago
go non profit and create "open source vehicle" certification and lobby in local communities to ban autonomous driving of cars in their communities unless they have the cert.,