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Is the response time really that fast? On my e-reader, it takes solid 1 second in the best case (and sometimes more than 3s worst) to switch a page. This device

by moon4u 9y ago

Is the response time really that fast? On my e-reader, it takes solid 1 second in the best case (and sometimes more than 3s worst) to switch a page. This device looks really fast. But maybe it's just updating small region and that's why it's so fast?

rtpg 9y ago
I've seen the Sony offering of this, and it's incredibly fast. But also super expensive
rhaps0dy 9y ago
>But maybe it's just updating small region and that's why it's so fast? Exactly. I have one and I think writing has really short latency. My friend says it's slightly slower than an iPad but I haven't tried that so I don't know, in any case it's still very good. The only really bad thing about the reMarkable is that the software still sometimes crashes, leaving you for ~20 seconds with a notebook that you can't write on.
- igorkraw 9y ago
  >The only really bad thing about the reMarkable is that the software still sometimes crashes, leaving you for ~20 seconds with a notebook that you can't write on. Interesting, in 3 months I haven't had a single crash
  - rhaps0dy 9y ago
    Then I envy you. Mine crashes about once a week, always when taking notes.
igorkraw 9y ago
Page switching can take a bit,depending on how much there is to render. When I read papers, it never takes more than half a second or so, at most. Drawing also doesn't have any painful latency (I say painful because it IS barely noticable, but it doesn't take away the feeling of drawing/writing and instant feedback)
TuringTest 9y ago
The response time is optimized for writing, not reading. This device is better treated as a whiteboard than an ebook. Switching pages can still take a few seconds (the display is lightning fast, but the processor for generating the page is not).
- otoburb 9y ago
  >>Switching pages can still take a few seconds (the display is lightning fast, but the processor for generating the page is not).* Can take up to a few seconds, but really depends on what the device is rendering. For most arXiv papers and light graphics (e.g. clean charts) the page turns have been very tolerable.
jdmichal 9y ago
A lot of responses are commenting about writing being fast. AFAIK, the slow part of eink displays was always effectively clearing them. Drawing is fast, and drawing without needing to clear anything, such as during writing, should be expected to be responsive. Many new systems don't do a full clear for every update, but that introduces more artifacts each time until a slow full clear is done. But the better displays now can get away with it without being distracting.
paulcole 9y ago
Just curious but which ereader do you have? The current higher-end Kindles (I have an Oasis and a Voyage) turn pages so fast as to be unnoticeable with a noticeable full screen flash every 10 or so pages.
- moon4u 9y ago
  It's Nook, but I don't remember the exact model. Maybe Glowlight. Maybe it's just time for me to update? I bought this in 2014.
thaumaturgy 9y ago
Echoing other responses here: writing on it is practically lag-free (there's a tiny amount of lag, but I don't even notice it anymore); using the eraser tool to erase sections takes a little more lag, using the move tool to move sections around lags a bit more, and a full page refresh can take a couple of seconds. In practice, it's been perfectly usable (for me). The only nit I've found responsiveness-wise so far is the startup time. It's not convenient when I suddenly remember something and want to write it down and have to hold down the power button for three seconds and then wait another five or more for it to get to the main screen and then wait another two or so to get to my scratch pad.

by moon4u 9y ago

rtpg 9y ago

I've seen the Sony offering of this, and it's incredibly fast. But also super expensive

rhaps0dy 9y ago

>But maybe it's just updating small region and that's why it's so fast? Exactly. I have one and I think writing has really short latency. My friend says it's slightly slower than an iPad but I haven't tried that so I don't know, in any case it's still very good. The only really bad thing about the reMarkable is that the software still sometimes crashes, leaving you for ~20 seconds with a notebook that you can't write on.

igorkraw 9y ago
>The only really bad thing about the reMarkable is that the software still sometimes crashes, leaving you for ~20 seconds with a notebook that you can't write on. Interesting, in 3 months I haven't had a single crash
- rhaps0dy 9y ago
  Then I envy you. Mine crashes about once a week, always when taking notes.

igorkraw 9y ago

Page switching can take a bit,depending on how much there is to render. When I read papers, it never takes more than half a second or so, at most. Drawing also doesn't have any painful latency (I say painful because it IS barely noticable, but it doesn't take away the feeling of drawing/writing and instant feedback)

TuringTest 9y ago

The response time is optimized for writing, not reading. This device is better treated as a whiteboard than an ebook. Switching pages can still take a few seconds (the display is lightning fast, but the processor for generating the page is not).

otoburb 9y ago
>>Switching pages can still take a few seconds (the display is lightning fast, but the processor for generating the page is not).* Can take up to a few seconds, but really depends on what the device is rendering. For most arXiv papers and light graphics (e.g. clean charts) the page turns have been very tolerable.

jdmichal 9y ago

A lot of responses are commenting about writing being fast. AFAIK, the slow part of eink displays was always effectively clearing them. Drawing is fast, and drawing without needing to clear anything, such as during writing, should be expected to be responsive. Many new systems don't do a full clear for every update, but that introduces more artifacts each time until a slow full clear is done. But the better displays now can get away with it without being distracting.

paulcole 9y ago

Just curious but which ereader do you have? The current higher-end Kindles (I have an Oasis and a Voyage) turn pages so fast as to be unnoticeable with a noticeable full screen flash every 10 or so pages.

moon4u 9y ago
It's Nook, but I don't remember the exact model. Maybe Glowlight. Maybe it's just time for me to update? I bought this in 2014.

thaumaturgy 9y ago

Echoing other responses here: writing on it is practically lag-free (there's a tiny amount of lag, but I don't even notice it anymore); using the eraser tool to erase sections takes a little more lag, using the move tool to move sections around lags a bit more, and a full page refresh can take a couple of seconds. In practice, it's been perfectly usable (for me). The only nit I've found responsiveness-wise so far is the startup time. It's not convenient when I suddenly remember something and want to write it down and have to hold down the power button for three seconds and then wait another five or more for it to get to the main screen and then wait another two or so to get to my scratch pad.