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I reset my location and “moved” to the safest social media state in the world

4 points by imartin2k 9y ago

mankash666 9y ago
I'm sorry but this is denial. There's an even better solution - quit Twitter and you'll never have to face the fact that Nazis exist. Or, come to the realistic conclusion that Nazis exist, like global warming and terrorists, and denial won't make them disappear. FWIW Twitter and the gang have drastically increased their anti harassment detection and enforcement, which is a step in the right direction. You're setting the wrong example for the new generation - solution to countering hate isn't a nanny state or fleeing to make believe denial lands. And Germany's over correction for their past is by no means sane. They need to deal with their past and civil liberties in a mature manner
- yorwba 9y ago
  How is it denial? You can acknowledge that Nazis exist and still not want to see their posts. I'm also confused by you saying "FWIW Twitter and the gang have drastically increased their anti harassment detection and enforcement, which is a step in the right direction." when the article is about making Twitter go even farther in that direction.
imartin2k 9y ago
In my eyes, this is a case where no matter from which perspective one approaches the topic, issues exist. Not doing anything against harassment is a bad solution. Doing something against it the way Germany does leads to collateral damage and overreach, which I also have a big problem with. This is really how freedom in a society dies by a thousand papercuts. I am worried about this race towards a "minimal common denominator" society where the only things that are acceptable to express are those that not even a single individual is taking offense with. Which in a highly fragmented, individualized society characterized by identity politics hardly exist anymore. On a more general terms, people should just give up on Twitter. It's simply a shitty service that was nice to have at some point in the past, and now it's a source and force of misery, endless outrage and tribalism. The first few days/weeks of cold turkey are hard. Then it becomes easier and easier, and mental peace emerges.

4 points by imartin2k 9y ago

I'm sorry but this is denial. There's an even better solution - quit Twitter and you'll never have to face the fact that Nazis exist. Or, come to the realistic conclusion that Nazis exist, like global warming and terrorists, and denial won't make them disappear. FWIW Twitter and the gang have drastically increased their anti harassment detection and enforcement, which is a step in the right direction. You're setting the wrong example for the new generation - solution to countering hate isn't a nanny state or fleeing to make believe denial lands. And Germany's over correction for their past is by no means sane. They need to deal with their past and civil liberties in a mature manner

yorwba 9y ago
How is it denial? You can acknowledge that Nazis exist and still not want to see their posts. I'm also confused by you saying "FWIW Twitter and the gang have drastically increased their anti harassment detection and enforcement, which is a step in the right direction." when the article is about making Twitter go even farther in that direction.

imartin2k 9y ago

In my eyes, this is a case where no matter from which perspective one approaches the topic, issues exist. Not doing anything against harassment is a bad solution. Doing something against it the way Germany does leads to collateral damage and overreach, which I also have a big problem with. This is really how freedom in a society dies by a thousand papercuts. I am worried about this race towards a "minimal common denominator" society where the only things that are acceptable to express are those that not even a single individual is taking offense with. Which in a highly fragmented, individualized society characterized by identity politics hardly exist anymore. On a more general terms, people should just give up on Twitter. It's simply a shitty service that was nice to have at some point in the past, and now it's a source and force of misery, endless outrage and tribalism. The first few days/weeks of cold turkey are hard. Then it becomes easier and easier, and mental peace emerges.