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Neither are as good as 99% of the tools available for development with HTML/CSS. [...] Delphi/Qt Designer look way worse than any HTML/CSS/JS GUI builder, too -

Neither are as good as 99% of the tools available for development with HTML/CSS. [...] Delphi/Qt Designer look way worse than any HTML/CSS/JS GUI builder, too - along with having interfaces equivalent to what GIMP's is to Photoshop. I have a feeling that you do not have any actual experience with Qt Designer or RAD tools? Designing a user interface quickly is many times easier in Qt, Delphi, etc. than in HTML/CSS. It start with the basic fact that Qt has many useful widgets that are not available in plain HTML, nor many CSS/Javascript frameworks. From there it is just drag and drop, adding a few spacers here and there and you are done. Plus, with HTML/CSS, you can work manually on your project, without any special tool besides your browser, Why would I develop in such an arcane manner if I already have great development tools for more than two decades? Again, I recommend anyone who only has HTML/CSS experience to look beyond their bubble. We had RAD tools with Delphi 1.0 in 1995, where you could build a user interface using drag and drop and associate code with event by simply double clicking a widget in the interface builder. I built GUI applications in Delphi as a 13-year old because it was trivial, even without an internet connection, StackOverflow, etc.

Fins 9y ago
At one of my jobs, a Delphi application (admittedly quite old) was reimplemented with the latest (at trhe time, anyway, I'm sure it's completely passe now) web frameworks, fancy Javascripts, nd all that. Not only did it take something like two orders of magnitude more man-hours to develop, but it takes users twice as long to get anything done, too.
Mononokay 9y ago
I have a feeling that you do not have any actual experience with Qt Designer or RAD tools? Designing a user interface quickly is many times easier in Qt, Delphi, etc. than in HTML/CSS. It start with the basic fact that Qt has many useful widgets that are not available in plain HTML, nor many CSS/Javascript frameworks. From there it is just drag and drop, adding a few spacers here and there and you are done. I have a fair bit, albeit less than the average user of said programs, of experience with Qt Designer and, admittedly to a lesser extent, Delphi. They're infinitely more complicated than, say, Adobe Muse. Muse has plenty of widgets, too; even if it's not 1:1 on pure quantity. BlueGriffon is quite nice, too. Why would I develop in such an arcane manner if I already have great development tools for more than two decades? Modern web browsers* have more or less functional IDEs within their devtools. *Except Firefox, of which has devtools half a mile behind most other browsers, at least in my opinion. Of course, I'm speaking from the point of view of someone who's a much worse programmer than designer.

Fins 9y ago

At one of my jobs, a Delphi application (admittedly quite old) was reimplemented with the latest (at trhe time, anyway, I'm sure it's completely passe now) web frameworks, fancy Javascripts, nd all that. Not only did it take something like two orders of magnitude more man-hours to develop, but it takes users twice as long to get anything done, too.

Mononokay 9y ago

I have a feeling that you do not have any actual experience with Qt Designer or RAD tools? Designing a user interface quickly is many times easier in Qt, Delphi, etc. than in HTML/CSS. It start with the basic fact that Qt has many useful widgets that are not available in plain HTML, nor many CSS/Javascript frameworks. From there it is just drag and drop, adding a few spacers here and there and you are done. I have a fair bit, albeit less than the average user of said programs, of experience with Qt Designer and, admittedly to a lesser extent, Delphi. They're infinitely more complicated than, say, Adobe Muse. Muse has plenty of widgets, too; even if it's not 1:1 on pure quantity. BlueGriffon is quite nice, too. Why would I develop in such an arcane manner if I already have great development tools for more than two decades? Modern web browsers* have more or less functional IDEs within their devtools. *Except Firefox, of which has devtools half a mile behind most other browsers, at least in my opinion. Of course, I'm speaking from the point of view of someone who's a much worse programmer than designer.