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The best part is at the end when the monkey pays another monkey for sex.

by lotusleaf1987 16y ago

daniel-cussen 16y ago
I think that's part of the origin of human evolution (this started happening after women started having hidden estrus).
- ithkuil 16y ago
  or seeing the same thing the other way around: hidden estrus was evolved in order to get more for less Schroder, Inge. "Concealed Ovulation and Clandestine Copulation: a Female Contribution to Human Evolution." Ethology and Sociobiology 14.6 (1993): 381-89.
olalonde 16y ago
I saw it coming at "pretty much focused on food and sex".
- chmike 16y ago
  Bonobo monkeys have been seen trading food (fruits) for sex. What is new for me here is that they adopted a currency.
  - helveticaman 16y ago
    But that's just like buying a woman dinner. It's arguably about sharing a gift and having an experience. Money is a (perhaps small) step further.
  - philwelch 16y ago
    Quibble: bonobos are apes, not monkeys.
    - chmike 16y ago
      Sorry, I don't understand your comment. I'm speaking french. What is the difference between apes and monkeys ?
      - philwelch 16y ago
        Bonobos, gorillas, chimpanzees, and orangutans are apes. Apes are very closely related to humans. Capuchins, marmosets, tamarins, baboons, and a host of other species are monkeys. Monkeys are more distantly related to humans. English and French are both imprecise languages. In formal classification, monkeys, apes, and humans are all primates. Furthermore, they are all of suborder Haplorrhini, infraorder Simiiformes. "New world monkeys" are of parvorder Platyrrhini, "old world monkeys", apes, and humans are of parvorder Catarrhini. Old world monkeys are within superfamily Cercopithecoidea, apes and humans are within superfamily Hominoidea. If you wanted to map the taxonomy to English, you'd probably say Platyrrhini and Cercopithecoidea are monkeys, while Hominoidea are apes. This implies that humans are apes, which is, at least scientifically, fairly accurate. Humans are not, however, monkeys.

The best part is at the end when the monkey pays another monkey for sex.

daniel-cussen 16y ago

I think that's part of the origin of human evolution (this started happening after women started having hidden estrus).

ithkuil 16y ago
or seeing the same thing the other way around: hidden estrus was evolved in order to get more for less Schroder, Inge. "Concealed Ovulation and Clandestine Copulation: a Female Contribution to Human Evolution." Ethology and Sociobiology 14.6 (1993): 381-89.

olalonde 16y ago

I saw it coming at "pretty much focused on food and sex".

chmike 16y ago
Bonobo monkeys have been seen trading food (fruits) for sex. What is new for me here is that they adopted a currency.
- helveticaman 16y ago
  But that's just like buying a woman dinner. It's arguably about sharing a gift and having an experience. Money is a (perhaps small) step further.
- philwelch 16y ago
  Quibble: bonobos are apes, not monkeys.
  - chmike 16y ago
    Sorry, I don't understand your comment. I'm speaking french. What is the difference between apes and monkeys ?
    - philwelch 16y ago
      Bonobos, gorillas, chimpanzees, and orangutans are apes. Apes are very closely related to humans. Capuchins, marmosets, tamarins, baboons, and a host of other species are monkeys. Monkeys are more distantly related to humans. English and French are both imprecise languages. In formal classification, monkeys, apes, and humans are all primates. Furthermore, they are all of suborder Haplorrhini, infraorder Simiiformes. "New world monkeys" are of parvorder Platyrrhini, "old world monkeys", apes, and humans are of parvorder Catarrhini. Old world monkeys are within superfamily Cercopithecoidea, apes and humans are within superfamily Hominoidea. If you wanted to map the taxonomy to English, you'd probably say Platyrrhini and Cercopithecoidea are monkeys, while Hominoidea are apes. This implies that humans are apes, which is, at least scientifically, fairly accurate. Humans are not, however, monkeys.