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I'm not anti-bodycam at all - but they don't seem to have had the effect we all hoped for... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/20/558832090/body-

I'm not anti-bodycam at all - but they don't seem to have had the effect we all hoped for... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/20/558832090/body-cam-study-shows-no-effect-on-police-use-of-force-or-citizen-complaints https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/20/558832090... From a minute of googling, looks like San Diego had more dramatic results

acedio 9y ago
From the article: >> It's to be expected that these cameras might have little impact on the behavior of police officers in Washington, D.C., he says, because this particular force went through about a decade of federal oversight to help improve the department. Seems as though the D.C. PD didn't have many issues that needed correcting?
gt_ 9y ago
...according to a study conducted by the police department in question. I contested a ticket I received from an aggressive traffic cop in Portland for texting in a stand-still bumper to bumper traffic jam. He was on a motorcycle and saw me as he rode by on the sidewalk!!! This guy had incredible nerve. In court, I insisted we view the footage from his body camera, which could only be done if I first refuse his plea offer, a significant issue IMO. I took the risk. The way he spoke to me was so militant and I thought it would be good to have the room give it a listen and see the traffic jam. The footage turns off as he is walking up to my car!!! Then he told me “either the battery died or the tape ran out”. Tape!!! This was 2015. The ticket was dropped, but I don’t think many people I know would have had this persistence, especially risking the plea denial. Beyond being annoyed, I was also intrigued with the abuse of power in such a trivial case.
- DrScump 9y ago
  Why had you not reviewed the recording (and other discovery) well before the court date?
  - gt_ 9y ago
    If that was possible, I didn’t know it was. Is there a law about this? How would I go about that next time?
    - upvotinglurker 9y ago
      Get a (paid) lawyer? (I agree you shouldn't HAVE to in a society with a well functioning justice system, but that would be the obvious means)

acedio 9y ago

From the article: >> It's to be expected that these cameras might have little impact on the behavior of police officers in Washington, D.C., he says, because this particular force went through about a decade of federal oversight to help improve the department. Seems as though the D.C. PD didn't have many issues that needed correcting?

gt_ 9y ago

...according to a study conducted by the police department in question. I contested a ticket I received from an aggressive traffic cop in Portland for texting in a stand-still bumper to bumper traffic jam. He was on a motorcycle and saw me as he rode by on the sidewalk!!! This guy had incredible nerve. In court, I insisted we view the footage from his body camera, which could only be done if I first refuse his plea offer, a significant issue IMO. I took the risk. The way he spoke to me was so militant and I thought it would be good to have the room give it a listen and see the traffic jam. The footage turns off as he is walking up to my car!!! Then he told me “either the battery died or the tape ran out”. Tape!!! This was 2015. The ticket was dropped, but I don’t think many people I know would have had this persistence, especially risking the plea denial. Beyond being annoyed, I was also intrigued with the abuse of power in such a trivial case.

DrScump 9y ago
Why had you not reviewed the recording (and other discovery) well before the court date?
- gt_ 9y ago
  If that was possible, I didn’t know it was. Is there a law about this? How would I go about that next time?
  - upvotinglurker 9y ago
    Get a (paid) lawyer? (I agree you shouldn't HAVE to in a society with a well functioning justice system, but that would be the obvious means)