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This isn't entirely true, and only applies to really old versions of iOS like 6, on truly old devices(ipad 1, iphone 4, etc). I just installed some new applicat

This isn't entirely true, and only applies to really old versions of iOS like 6, on truly old devices(ipad 1, iphone 4, etc). I just installed some new applications on my ipad 3 running iOS 9 this weekend with no issues. It grabbed the newest compatible version, and i was able to start plugging away almost immediately. The only thing that hamstrung me was having to sign out and in to the itunes store once, but i was able to install several games and hulu(which worked!) I do wish you got a popup with a few options of which point release to install, but i think "newest compatible point release" is a good system for 99% of users

Karrot_Kream 9y ago
> on truly old devices(ipad 1, iphone 4, etc) When I was growing up, my parents would give me their 5 year old hand-me-down computers, which were already 4-5 years old or so. the iPhone 4 is 8 years old, so that would already be DOA for my teenage self.
- thinkythought 9y ago
  This still holds up too. My mom is using my ipad air, which is now about 5 years old. Current software, runs smoothly, no complaints
  - Karrot_Kream 9y ago
    Yeah sorry, I wasn't really objecting to the parent comment. My sister used an iPad from 2007 until earlier this year, when she upgraded to an iPad from 2016.
  - rahimnathwani 9y ago
    I'm using an iPad Air 2, and I've found it sluggish for the past year or so. Still usable, but I've switched to preferring to use my phone for quick searches and 50% of idle surfing/shopping. My dad is happy with his iPad 4th generation, which is one iOS version behind. But he is more patient than I, and also it's his only internet-connected device, so he's not comparing it to a fast PC or fast smartphone.
khedoros1 9y ago
> and only applies to really old versions of iOS like 6, on truly old devices(ipad 1, iphone 4, etc). I find this amusing; iOS 6 is just 4 years old (at least, the newest revision of it). My iPod Touch is about 9, and started losing access to new apps about 6-7 years ago. And of course, Youtube, Netflix, and such stopped supporting the relevant codecs years ago too.
- scarface74 9y ago
  No they haven't. Netflix works on all of the devices Apple has introduced since 2010. I know. I have all three of them.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    Hi! I'm not talking about a device introduced after 2010; I'm talking about a device introduced in 2007, and which I bought about mid-2008. You have 3 devices that I wasn't talking about (beyond being amused by iOS 6 and iPhone 4 being called really/truly old). Back to the iPod Touch that I was talking about: The Netflix app that's on there (the newest available for iPhone OS 3.1.3) apparently can't authenticate with Netflix's current backend. Their site says that there's a version for iOS 5 that will still work, and that the current version requires iOS 9.
    - scarface74 9y ago
      That's true. I also have a first gen functional iPod Touch from 2007. It's not a codec issue, Netflix doesn't support that version of the authentication API. As I said in another post, comparing the longevity of a mobile device in its first decade to a PC is Apples and Oranges. Today, I have a few 10 year old computers that are still being used either by me or my parents. My 10 year old PC, I'm using as a plex server can use modern USB 2 peripherals, has gigabit Ethernet that takes full advantage of my gigabit internet, runs a modern OS (Windows 10), etc. It has a 1920x1200 display. It has 4Gb RAM but can be upgraded to 8. 10 years later, most consumer PCs come with 8GB. Now in 2008, my Gateway Solo from 1998 with an 800x600 display, 16Mb RAM, no USB, and a 4GB hard drive would have been useless. It definitely couldn't run modern software. But going back to iPads. Compare the longevity of the iPad in 2010 running iOS 5 with a 2007 iPod Touch that came out 4 years earlier. On the other end, compare the longevity of an iPad 2 that got upgraded from iOS 5 to iOS 9 to the first gen that only got upgraded from iOS 3 to iOS 5. I fully expect to see the usefulness of mobile devices - at least on the Apple side where you actually get OS updates to continuously lengthen.
kup0 9y ago
Was helping someone out recently with getting their iPhone set up to download apps. They had the phone for a while but only used it as a phone (they aren't tech-savvy). We couldn't even install the Kroger (grocery store) app because it said it required iOS 11, and she was still on 10. She was not given the option to download an older version compatible with iOS 10 and the device is old enough that it does not support iOS 11.

Karrot_Kream 9y ago

> on truly old devices(ipad 1, iphone 4, etc) When I was growing up, my parents would give me their 5 year old hand-me-down computers, which were already 4-5 years old or so. the iPhone 4 is 8 years old, so that would already be DOA for my teenage self.

thinkythought 9y ago
This still holds up too. My mom is using my ipad air, which is now about 5 years old. Current software, runs smoothly, no complaints
- Karrot_Kream 9y ago
  Yeah sorry, I wasn't really objecting to the parent comment. My sister used an iPad from 2007 until earlier this year, when she upgraded to an iPad from 2016.
- rahimnathwani 9y ago
  I'm using an iPad Air 2, and I've found it sluggish for the past year or so. Still usable, but I've switched to preferring to use my phone for quick searches and 50% of idle surfing/shopping. My dad is happy with his iPad 4th generation, which is one iOS version behind. But he is more patient than I, and also it's his only internet-connected device, so he's not comparing it to a fast PC or fast smartphone.

khedoros1 9y ago

> and only applies to really old versions of iOS like 6, on truly old devices(ipad 1, iphone 4, etc). I find this amusing; iOS 6 is just 4 years old (at least, the newest revision of it). My iPod Touch is about 9, and started losing access to new apps about 6-7 years ago. And of course, Youtube, Netflix, and such stopped supporting the relevant codecs years ago too.

scarface74 9y ago
No they haven't. Netflix works on all of the devices Apple has introduced since 2010. I know. I have all three of them.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  Hi! I'm not talking about a device introduced after 2010; I'm talking about a device introduced in 2007, and which I bought about mid-2008. You have 3 devices that I wasn't talking about (beyond being amused by iOS 6 and iPhone 4 being called really/truly old). Back to the iPod Touch that I was talking about: The Netflix app that's on there (the newest available for iPhone OS 3.1.3) apparently can't authenticate with Netflix's current backend. Their site says that there's a version for iOS 5 that will still work, and that the current version requires iOS 9.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    That's true. I also have a first gen functional iPod Touch from 2007. It's not a codec issue, Netflix doesn't support that version of the authentication API. As I said in another post, comparing the longevity of a mobile device in its first decade to a PC is Apples and Oranges. Today, I have a few 10 year old computers that are still being used either by me or my parents. My 10 year old PC, I'm using as a plex server can use modern USB 2 peripherals, has gigabit Ethernet that takes full advantage of my gigabit internet, runs a modern OS (Windows 10), etc. It has a 1920x1200 display. It has 4Gb RAM but can be upgraded to 8. 10 years later, most consumer PCs come with 8GB. Now in 2008, my Gateway Solo from 1998 with an 800x600 display, 16Mb RAM, no USB, and a 4GB hard drive would have been useless. It definitely couldn't run modern software. But going back to iPads. Compare the longevity of the iPad in 2010 running iOS 5 with a 2007 iPod Touch that came out 4 years earlier. On the other end, compare the longevity of an iPad 2 that got upgraded from iOS 5 to iOS 9 to the first gen that only got upgraded from iOS 3 to iOS 5. I fully expect to see the usefulness of mobile devices - at least on the Apple side where you actually get OS updates to continuously lengthen.

kup0 9y ago

Was helping someone out recently with getting their iPhone set up to download apps. They had the phone for a while but only used it as a phone (they aren't tech-savvy). We couldn't even install the Kroger (grocery store) app because it said it required iOS 11, and she was still on 10. She was not given the option to download an older version compatible with iOS 10 and the device is old enough that it does not support iOS 11.