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Has anyone been charged with the false report of the scissors hijab attack?

by leesalminen 9y ago

schwap 9y ago
No. What possible reason would they have for charging a child?
- astebbin 9y ago
  To play devil’s advocate for a moment: children are often coached by parents in cases like this. Remember “balloon boy,” who hid in the garage per his dad’s instruction so the family could get their 15 minutes of fame? That said, kids like to make things up too, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what happened here.
  - cgag 9y ago
    Was it a hoax though? https://youtu.be/QWhUvm8SunY https://youtu.be/QWhUvm8SunY
    - always_good 9y ago
      Wow, great vid. The follow up from Heene himself is pretty convincing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axgyj7g5XZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axgyj7g5XZY
- leesalminen 9y ago
  I thought laws still applied to minors, though the sentences are different. At least that’s how it is in the US.
smnrchrds 9y ago
If you want to charge children for lying, everyone would have a thick binder full of criminal records by the age of 12. Maybe, of we want to blame anyone, it should be the media for but doing their due diligence before publishing a price of news.
- leesalminen 9y ago
  I think there’s a difference between lying to your mom about cleaning your room and filing a false police report.
  - smnrchrds 9y ago
    I imagine it was a small lie that got out of hand. She did not mastermind a media storm. She told a lie to her school or her parents, they went to police, police talked to media, media interviewed the family, etc. At some point, if she were an adult, she would have understood that the lie had gotten out of hand and would have put an end to it. She was probably so afraid of "getting in trouble" that she didn't dare admit she lied in the first place. When I was in kindergarten, I once lied about seeing a snake in the schoolyard. I don't remember why or how, I just told a stupid lie like every stupid kid (which is the same thing as every kid) does all the time. Now, no one believed me and I don't think that anyone else in the world remembers what I said, but imagine if they did. Imagine the grown-ups had taken it seriously and called 911 (well, 125 realistically , it wasn't in North America). The city would have started a large investigation to find the missing killer snake, the media would have printed article after article reporting on how people should be scared of sending their kids to school when there are dangerous animals on the loose and no one does anything about it, recess would have been cancelled, ... Imagine a shark scare, but on a larger scale. Every now and then, some grown-up would have asked me if I was sure I saw a snake, and due to the aforementioned stupidity, plus the fact that I was afraid of getting in trouble, I would have nodded yes. It would have been The News until something else distracted people from it. None of this happened because no one believed me in the first place. But if it had happened, should I have been held criminally responsible for all the trouble? That's my point. Kids lie all the time for all sorts of reasons. If you want to start holding them responsible through criminal justice system, you would have to send every one of them to jail.
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
Not sure. Why do you bring it up in this context?

Has anyone been charged with the false report of the scissors hijab attack?

schwap 9y ago

No. What possible reason would they have for charging a child?

astebbin 9y ago
To play devil’s advocate for a moment: children are often coached by parents in cases like this. Remember “balloon boy,” who hid in the garage per his dad’s instruction so the family could get their 15 minutes of fame? That said, kids like to make things up too, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what happened here.
- cgag 9y ago
  Was it a hoax though? https://youtu.be/QWhUvm8SunY https://youtu.be/QWhUvm8SunY
  - always_good 9y ago
    Wow, great vid. The follow up from Heene himself is pretty convincing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axgyj7g5XZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axgyj7g5XZY
leesalminen 9y ago
I thought laws still applied to minors, though the sentences are different. At least that’s how it is in the US.

smnrchrds 9y ago

If you want to charge children for lying, everyone would have a thick binder full of criminal records by the age of 12. Maybe, of we want to blame anyone, it should be the media for but doing their due diligence before publishing a price of news.

leesalminen 9y ago
I think there’s a difference between lying to your mom about cleaning your room and filing a false police report.
- smnrchrds 9y ago
  I imagine it was a small lie that got out of hand. She did not mastermind a media storm. She told a lie to her school or her parents, they went to police, police talked to media, media interviewed the family, etc. At some point, if she were an adult, she would have understood that the lie had gotten out of hand and would have put an end to it. She was probably so afraid of "getting in trouble" that she didn't dare admit she lied in the first place. When I was in kindergarten, I once lied about seeing a snake in the schoolyard. I don't remember why or how, I just told a stupid lie like every stupid kid (which is the same thing as every kid) does all the time. Now, no one believed me and I don't think that anyone else in the world remembers what I said, but imagine if they did. Imagine the grown-ups had taken it seriously and called 911 (well, 125 realistically , it wasn't in North America). The city would have started a large investigation to find the missing killer snake, the media would have printed article after article reporting on how people should be scared of sending their kids to school when there are dangerous animals on the loose and no one does anything about it, recess would have been cancelled, ... Imagine a shark scare, but on a larger scale. Every now and then, some grown-up would have asked me if I was sure I saw a snake, and due to the aforementioned stupidity, plus the fact that I was afraid of getting in trouble, I would have nodded yes. It would have been The News until something else distracted people from it. None of this happened because no one believed me in the first place. But if it had happened, should I have been held criminally responsible for all the trouble? That's my point. Kids lie all the time for all sorts of reasons. If you want to start holding them responsible through criminal justice system, you would have to send every one of them to jail.

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

Not sure. Why do you bring it up in this context?