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Wow, judgmental much? For some of us the "productivity" is the mental high you get from the workout. Honestly I just feel damn good. Lifting weights and cycli

Wow, judgmental much? For some of us the "productivity" is the mental high you get from the workout. Honestly I just feel damn good. Lifting weights and cycling (yes even indoor) both are very enjoyable and give me a high equivalent to eating chocolate, sex, or other chemically rewarding activities. I pay for a personal trainer not because of the air conditioning, but because there is tens of thousands of dollars in equipment to help me train that I have no interest in buying myself.

marssaxman 9y ago
It did not sound judgemental to me - more like a personal statement about the writer's experience. Perhaps that is just because I relate to their sentiment. I understand that many people do enjoy exercise for its own sake, as you describe, but I don't experience that pleasure, and the boredom is more than I can stand.
moneytide1 9y ago
Today I worked some harsh terrain by hand - it is a thicket and the roots are heavily entrenched. My goal is to dig a channel away from where I'm building my house, so water can drain from the foundation. Lifting dirt is more of a lower back workout, but tugging on those roots... I feel it in my abs and triceps. The harder I tug, the larger these assets will become (as long as I supply their growth with protein). There are lots of rocks in the primary creek where gravity brings the rain. I plan on moving these rocks out to use as for a road so I can bring my truck through the mud to my building site, and ferry heavier tools and supplies. For now I am walking a half mile to the site with my pickaxe, shovel, and hedge trimmers. Sometimes I'll go into a sprint, for no reason really, until I get winded. There is usually a steady burn on my shoulders while I lug this gear. I imagine this is the sort of conditioning required of a soldier throughout the ages - to be able to carry your own weight, equipment and all, through the mud and uneven terrain. My ultimate goal is to build an off-grid home, and dam up this creek so I can use it for hydroelectric power to supplement my home-made solar panels. These panels are low cost, because I'll drive around on Saturdays and find glass on the side of the road that people apparently don't want (renovation?). This is another workout, and simultaneous recycling measure. When we use physical labor only as a means to achieve an image, we are only fooling the opposite sex. Basic sexual attraction has everything to do with physicality - it is a signal of a mates capacity for strength and endurance. It's not that working out in a gym is a waste of time, because the body does become stronger if effort is applied. But that is the very thing we become good at - iron up and down in the same spot.
- moneytide1 9y ago
  Also, I tend to get at least a few cuts on thorns when I do this. In a way, this exercises my immune system. Sterile environments are dangerous.

marssaxman 9y ago

It did not sound judgemental to me - more like a personal statement about the writer's experience. Perhaps that is just because I relate to their sentiment. I understand that many people do enjoy exercise for its own sake, as you describe, but I don't experience that pleasure, and the boredom is more than I can stand.

moneytide1 9y ago

Today I worked some harsh terrain by hand - it is a thicket and the roots are heavily entrenched. My goal is to dig a channel away from where I'm building my house, so water can drain from the foundation. Lifting dirt is more of a lower back workout, but tugging on those roots... I feel it in my abs and triceps. The harder I tug, the larger these assets will become (as long as I supply their growth with protein). There are lots of rocks in the primary creek where gravity brings the rain. I plan on moving these rocks out to use as for a road so I can bring my truck through the mud to my building site, and ferry heavier tools and supplies. For now I am walking a half mile to the site with my pickaxe, shovel, and hedge trimmers. Sometimes I'll go into a sprint, for no reason really, until I get winded. There is usually a steady burn on my shoulders while I lug this gear. I imagine this is the sort of conditioning required of a soldier throughout the ages - to be able to carry your own weight, equipment and all, through the mud and uneven terrain. My ultimate goal is to build an off-grid home, and dam up this creek so I can use it for hydroelectric power to supplement my home-made solar panels. These panels are low cost, because I'll drive around on Saturdays and find glass on the side of the road that people apparently don't want (renovation?). This is another workout, and simultaneous recycling measure. When we use physical labor only as a means to achieve an image, we are only fooling the opposite sex. Basic sexual attraction has everything to do with physicality - it is a signal of a mates capacity for strength and endurance. It's not that working out in a gym is a waste of time, because the body does become stronger if effort is applied. But that is the very thing we become good at - iron up and down in the same spot.

moneytide1 9y ago
Also, I tend to get at least a few cuts on thorns when I do this. In a way, this exercises my immune system. Sterile environments are dangerous.