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Police unions are the only strong unions left in the country. The conservatives will come for them at some point too...until then you have places like Philly t

Police unions are the only strong unions left in the country. The conservatives will come for them at some point too...until then you have places like Philly that, at least used to, have complaints against police be heard by the union before they are passed on to internal affairs. Bmore takes the cake, though...just wtf all over and back again.

nitwit005 9y ago
I kind of doubt the conservatives will come for them. They're often allies, even if they don't like to admit being friends with unions. The only evil the current Republican party seems interested in banishing from the world is Democrats.
SteveNuts 9y ago
> The conservatives will come for them at some point too... I really really doubt that. All the conservatives I know love the police and think they can do no wrong.
- mcny 9y ago
  > I really really doubt that. All the conservatives I know love the police and think they can do no wrong. I hate to agree. Just an example https://archive.fo/QjtoQ https://archive.fo/QjtoQ > A Minnesota prosecutor said on Thursday he needs more time to decide whether to charge a police officer who fatally shot an Australian woman who called 911 for help. > Minneapolis officer Mohamed Noor shot Justine Ruszczyk Damond on 15 July, just minutes after she called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her home. > The 40-year-old life coach was engaged to be married, and her death drew international attention. It also cost Minneapolis’ then-police chief her job and forced major revisions to the police department’s policy on body cameras. Hennepin County attorney Mike Freeman had promised a decision by the end of the year. But on Thursday he said his office was “getting more information and evidence, and additional investigation must be completed”. You'd think that all the "conservatives" would demand that the shooter be hanged, quartered, and drawn. At least, there is a silver lining in this case that the new police chief knows that the public will not tolerate something like this.
  - duck 9y ago
    The only problem with this reasoning is Minnesota is one of the most liberal states in the Union.
    - gautamnarula 9y ago
      What are you basing that off of? Trump barely lost Minnesota in 2016 (46.9 Clinton to 45.4 Trump), and it's a swing state in virtually every national election.
      - duck 9y ago
        Half my family is from there so partly anodically, but these seem to back it up: * http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/221721-how-red-or-blue-is-your-state http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/221721-how-r... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Minnesota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Minnesota "Minnesotans have voted for Democratic presidential candidates ever since 1976, more times consecutively than any other state outside of the south, and longer than any state."
        2trill2spill 9y ago
        > Half my family is from there so partly anodically, but these seem to back it up. Your family must live in the Twin Cities metro because Minnesota gets real conservative real quick outside of Minneapolis, St Paul and the inner Suburbs.
        duck 9y ago
        Nope, farm country. And as with all things political, it is way more complex and not so binary, but that said, the whole point of this thread is around the Twin Cities and who they've elected... so I agree.
        fiblye 9y ago
        I hear that said a lot about X state, and that's because it's true for pretty much every single state. Once you're outside the major cities, it's hardline conservative.
- southphillyman 9y ago
  In general I agree, but the Cliven Bundy incident showed that there can be inconsistencies in what they support.
rhino369 9y ago
My only problem with Scott Walkers attack on public unions, is that he exempted police and other first responders.
acct1771 9y ago
What's most at risk if police collective bargaining is weakened?
dragonwriter 9y ago
> The conservatives will come for them at some point too... Police unions are the most reliably conservative unions, and are powerful advocates for conservative policies. If hardcore libertarians were in power, they might be threatened, but mainstream conservatives aren't likely to come for them.

nitwit005 9y ago

I kind of doubt the conservatives will come for them. They're often allies, even if they don't like to admit being friends with unions. The only evil the current Republican party seems interested in banishing from the world is Democrats.

SteveNuts 9y ago

> The conservatives will come for them at some point too... I really really doubt that. All the conservatives I know love the police and think they can do no wrong.

mcny 9y ago
> I really really doubt that. All the conservatives I know love the police and think they can do no wrong. I hate to agree. Just an example https://archive.fo/QjtoQ https://archive.fo/QjtoQ > A Minnesota prosecutor said on Thursday he needs more time to decide whether to charge a police officer who fatally shot an Australian woman who called 911 for help. > Minneapolis officer Mohamed Noor shot Justine Ruszczyk Damond on 15 July, just minutes after she called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her home. > The 40-year-old life coach was engaged to be married, and her death drew international attention. It also cost Minneapolis’ then-police chief her job and forced major revisions to the police department’s policy on body cameras. Hennepin County attorney Mike Freeman had promised a decision by the end of the year. But on Thursday he said his office was “getting more information and evidence, and additional investigation must be completed”. You'd think that all the "conservatives" would demand that the shooter be hanged, quartered, and drawn. At least, there is a silver lining in this case that the new police chief knows that the public will not tolerate something like this.
- duck 9y ago
  The only problem with this reasoning is Minnesota is one of the most liberal states in the Union.
  - gautamnarula 9y ago
    What are you basing that off of? Trump barely lost Minnesota in 2016 (46.9 Clinton to 45.4 Trump), and it's a swing state in virtually every national election.
    - duck 9y ago
      Half my family is from there so partly anodically, but these seem to back it up: * http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/221721-how-red-or-blue-is-your-state http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/221721-how-r... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Minnesota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Minnesota "Minnesotans have voted for Democratic presidential candidates ever since 1976, more times consecutively than any other state outside of the south, and longer than any state."
      - 2trill2spill 9y ago
        > Half my family is from there so partly anodically, but these seem to back it up. Your family must live in the Twin Cities metro because Minnesota gets real conservative real quick outside of Minneapolis, St Paul and the inner Suburbs.
        duck 9y ago
        Nope, farm country. And as with all things political, it is way more complex and not so binary, but that said, the whole point of this thread is around the Twin Cities and who they've elected... so I agree.
        fiblye 9y ago
        I hear that said a lot about X state, and that's because it's true for pretty much every single state. Once you're outside the major cities, it's hardline conservative.
southphillyman 9y ago
In general I agree, but the Cliven Bundy incident showed that there can be inconsistencies in what they support.

rhino369 9y ago

My only problem with Scott Walkers attack on public unions, is that he exempted police and other first responders.

acct1771 9y ago

What's most at risk if police collective bargaining is weakened?

dragonwriter 9y ago

> The conservatives will come for them at some point too... Police unions are the most reliably conservative unions, and are powerful advocates for conservative policies. If hardcore libertarians were in power, they might be threatened, but mainstream conservatives aren't likely to come for them.