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Think your point that the value of different kinds of privacy varies with cultural norms and as such, may be over-valued, is an interesting one but have to obje

by harryf 9y ago

Think your point that the value of different kinds of privacy varies with cultural norms and as such, may be over-valued, is an interesting one but have to object to this part - don't think it's a good example. > Just one example: in the US if someone is involved in egregious fraud (such as ripping off thousands of individuals in a scam) then the US says that such information constitutes news and that even if its old information from a decade ago its relevant, and a platform like Kickstarter or Google can keep the information online for users to assess before transacting with the individual. So long as it's profitable, scammers are going to find ways to scam no matter what, such creating fake identities in this case. I'd rather trade that against a teenager committing suicide because of revenge porn.

x0x0 9y ago
Legislators in the US can, and more states are, passing laws against revenge porn so I don't think that's a good example. I do think fraudsters will attempt to use the GDPR to erase their fraud histories. Companies will need to carefully delineate what data is used as a legitimate interest vs consent bases to make sure they can continue to use fraud histories in their anti-fraud efforts.
TheMagicHorsey 9y ago
It's not as easy as you think to shed an identity and make a new one for fraud when the identity is linked to real-world ID in many jurisdictions. The teen suicide issue is unrelated. Facts, such as news stories about fraud, are not the same thing as media, such as a porn video. Regulations can easily bifurcate between the two so its a false tradeoff. What is telling is that the regulators in Europe have chosen NOT to make this distinction. And in fact they have EXPLICITLY protected people's right to purge news stories about their fraud ... showing a disdain for making such a judgment in favor of information freedom.

by harryf 9y ago

x0x0 9y ago

Legislators in the US can, and more states are, passing laws against revenge porn so I don't think that's a good example. I do think fraudsters will attempt to use the GDPR to erase their fraud histories. Companies will need to carefully delineate what data is used as a legitimate interest vs consent bases to make sure they can continue to use fraud histories in their anti-fraud efforts.

TheMagicHorsey 9y ago

It's not as easy as you think to shed an identity and make a new one for fraud when the identity is linked to real-world ID in many jurisdictions. The teen suicide issue is unrelated. Facts, such as news stories about fraud, are not the same thing as media, such as a porn video. Regulations can easily bifurcate between the two so its a false tradeoff. What is telling is that the regulators in Europe have chosen NOT to make this distinction. And in fact they have EXPLICITLY protected people's right to purge news stories about their fraud ... showing a disdain for making such a judgment in favor of information freedom.