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how can you simultaneously care about the deficit and support the tax cuts. Cognitive dissonance?

by oculusthrift 9y ago

gonational 9y ago
Um... by reducing spending.
- cmontella 9y ago
  The current admin has proposed a multi billion dollar wall (turns out we will pay for that after all), a trillion dollar infrastructure project, and increases in military spending. What is this "reduced spending" you're talking about?
  - sanderjd 9y ago
    It seems pretty straightforward: they likely aren't in favor of those policies either.
    - cmontella 9y ago
      Who is "they" exactly? The party that spent the past 8 years talking about how deficits and spending are going to destroy the country are currently running things... and looking to increase deficits and spending. Self labeled "fiscal conservatives" just voted for a $1.5T unfunded tax cut, banking on essentially fairy dust (trickle down economic voodoo) to save the budget.
      - sanderjd 9y ago
        I was just talking about the commenter you replied to (gonational).
      - thomasrognon 9y ago
        There's more than just Democrat and Republican out there.
  - longerthoughts 9y ago
    This is where the opposing view will typically point at social programs, for starters. I suspect that no amount of feasible cuts to social programs would fully subsidize the spending that you mentioned and reduce the deficit but don't have the numbers. To their point though, a person could reasonably support the tax cuts and seek to reduce the deficit on the premise that reduced spending would satisfy the latter over time. Whether or not the current administration is making a genuine attempt to do so is a separate argument and one that their comment did not mention.
    - cmontella 9y ago
      > To their point though, a person could reasonably support the tax cuts and seek to reduce the deficit on the premise that reduced spending would satisfy the latter over time. Whether or not the current administration is making a genuine attempt to do so is a separate argument and one that their comment did not mention. Right, that would be an argument, but not one that's on the table. The Republicans and the President justified the tax cuts not by saying they would subsequently reduce spending, but by saying the cuts would invigorate the economy so much, any reduction in revenue directly caused by the cuts would be offset by gains in GDP.
- oculusthrift 9y ago
  yes but there’s no plan to do that. so as it stands we’ve committed to less income with increased spending. (the wall, wars, infrastructure) sounds legit.

how can you simultaneously care about the deficit and support the tax cuts. Cognitive dissonance?

gonational 9y ago

Um... by reducing spending.

cmontella 9y ago
The current admin has proposed a multi billion dollar wall (turns out we will pay for that after all), a trillion dollar infrastructure project, and increases in military spending. What is this "reduced spending" you're talking about?
- sanderjd 9y ago
  It seems pretty straightforward: they likely aren't in favor of those policies either.
  - cmontella 9y ago
    Who is "they" exactly? The party that spent the past 8 years talking about how deficits and spending are going to destroy the country are currently running things... and looking to increase deficits and spending. Self labeled "fiscal conservatives" just voted for a $1.5T unfunded tax cut, banking on essentially fairy dust (trickle down economic voodoo) to save the budget.
    - sanderjd 9y ago
      I was just talking about the commenter you replied to (gonational).
    - thomasrognon 9y ago
      There's more than just Democrat and Republican out there.
- longerthoughts 9y ago
  This is where the opposing view will typically point at social programs, for starters. I suspect that no amount of feasible cuts to social programs would fully subsidize the spending that you mentioned and reduce the deficit but don't have the numbers. To their point though, a person could reasonably support the tax cuts and seek to reduce the deficit on the premise that reduced spending would satisfy the latter over time. Whether or not the current administration is making a genuine attempt to do so is a separate argument and one that their comment did not mention.
  - cmontella 9y ago
    > To their point though, a person could reasonably support the tax cuts and seek to reduce the deficit on the premise that reduced spending would satisfy the latter over time. Whether or not the current administration is making a genuine attempt to do so is a separate argument and one that their comment did not mention. Right, that would be an argument, but not one that's on the table. The Republicans and the President justified the tax cuts not by saying they would subsequently reduce spending, but by saying the cuts would invigorate the economy so much, any reduction in revenue directly caused by the cuts would be offset by gains in GDP.
oculusthrift 9y ago
yes but there’s no plan to do that. so as it stands we’ve committed to less income with increased spending. (the wall, wars, infrastructure) sounds legit.