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I'm staying with my 2015 15" MBP (i7-4870HQ, AMD R9 M370X GPU, 16GB RAM) Still running El Capitan. I hear they have M.2 to Apple SSD adapters now too. The High

by jtl999 9y ago

I'm staying with my 2015 15" MBP (i7-4870HQ, AMD R9 M370X GPU, 16GB RAM) Still running El Capitan. I hear they have M.2 to Apple SSD adapters now too. The High Sierra root bug was embarrassing, among other issues. But bugs happen... I also don't like the newer and thinner MBP's. I would prefer for the "Pro" line that they had more USB and other ports, and I absolutely don't want a Touch Bar. Not sure what I'm going to do for my next laptop. Try and keep this one going for as long as possible.

dandare 9y ago
The new keyboard is surprisingly amazing but the lack of ports is just embarrassing. At work we have this "who brought the dongle to the meeting?" game. With my personal laptop I will wait for the next version.
- marrone12 9y ago
  I think the new keyboard is pretty terrible honestly. So many keys get stuck and no longer press down. I've had multiple friends who have had to get their whole keyboards replaced because of stuck keys and the genius bar couldn't fix it.
  - naikrovek 9y ago
    Agree. Not even considering durability issues, 0.1mm of full-scale travel on a keyboard key is just not comfortable to type on at all.
    - gargravarr 9y ago
      And they are unbelievably clicky, too. Worse than some of the mech keyboards in my office. I find them awful to type on and have an old Retina laptop instead.
- closeparen 9y ago
  At my work we have a comprehensive Zoom integration. We hit the “Share Screen” button and it goes to the room’s projector, as well as all the remote participants. Dongles are available, but discouraged, as the screen is then only available within the room. At my desk it’s no problem to leave dongles attached to the monitors. As usual, Apple has removed a standard before the industry is quite done with it, but as usual, there is a better way to get the job done.
  - gargravarr 9y ago
    Apple's history has been to drop one standard at a time. With USB-C, they've dropped all of them at once. Now it's the only port to do anything on a computer. When they adopted USB, there were still other I/O options like Firewire, or when they adopted Mini-DisplayPort you still had USB ports because they didn't affect anything else. Now, it's literally USB-C or nothing. I keep a drawer full of USB-C to USB-A adapters for this reason, and the Apple official HDMI adapters are not 100% reliable. So annoying.
- dkonofalski 9y ago
  I agree about the keyboard but I don't understand the dongle game at all. I bought 1 dongle with a USB, HDMI, and DVI out and I just keep it in my laptop bag. I've literally pulled it out twice to use for the DVI port. My biggest use case is, by far, the HDMI port but there's never any game with it. I don't get how people are so baffled by this. All my other stuff is now USB-C and I think the convenience of multiple ports far outweighs any mild irritation from needing a dongle in a few edge cases.
- j45 9y ago
  The latest keyboard is attractive and an improvement over the original thin keyboard. Still, the keys stop working if dust goes in underneath them. Experienced the issue trying out typeracer.com in a few apple stores to get a feel of the new keyboard - some keys just don't work on current MBP models. So much so that Apple has created an official guide on how to correctly clean the keyboard, instead of making a keyboard that didn't need this new feature. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205662 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205662 I really do hope the keyboard issue is resolved, eventually my MBP will have to be updated.
- olliej 9y ago
  that's clearly silly. the correct thing to do is tether all of the accursed things to the conference room table :D

by jtl999 9y ago

dandare 9y ago

The new keyboard is surprisingly amazing but the lack of ports is just embarrassing. At work we have this "who brought the dongle to the meeting?" game. With my personal laptop I will wait for the next version.

marrone12 9y ago
I think the new keyboard is pretty terrible honestly. So many keys get stuck and no longer press down. I've had multiple friends who have had to get their whole keyboards replaced because of stuck keys and the genius bar couldn't fix it.
- naikrovek 9y ago
  Agree. Not even considering durability issues, 0.1mm of full-scale travel on a keyboard key is just not comfortable to type on at all.
  - gargravarr 9y ago
    And they are unbelievably clicky, too. Worse than some of the mech keyboards in my office. I find them awful to type on and have an old Retina laptop instead.
closeparen 9y ago
At my work we have a comprehensive Zoom integration. We hit the “Share Screen” button and it goes to the room’s projector, as well as all the remote participants. Dongles are available, but discouraged, as the screen is then only available within the room. At my desk it’s no problem to leave dongles attached to the monitors. As usual, Apple has removed a standard before the industry is quite done with it, but as usual, there is a better way to get the job done.
- gargravarr 9y ago
  Apple's history has been to drop one standard at a time. With USB-C, they've dropped all of them at once. Now it's the only port to do anything on a computer. When they adopted USB, there were still other I/O options like Firewire, or when they adopted Mini-DisplayPort you still had USB ports because they didn't affect anything else. Now, it's literally USB-C or nothing. I keep a drawer full of USB-C to USB-A adapters for this reason, and the Apple official HDMI adapters are not 100% reliable. So annoying.
dkonofalski 9y ago
I agree about the keyboard but I don't understand the dongle game at all. I bought 1 dongle with a USB, HDMI, and DVI out and I just keep it in my laptop bag. I've literally pulled it out twice to use for the DVI port. My biggest use case is, by far, the HDMI port but there's never any game with it. I don't get how people are so baffled by this. All my other stuff is now USB-C and I think the convenience of multiple ports far outweighs any mild irritation from needing a dongle in a few edge cases.
j45 9y ago
The latest keyboard is attractive and an improvement over the original thin keyboard. Still, the keys stop working if dust goes in underneath them. Experienced the issue trying out typeracer.com in a few apple stores to get a feel of the new keyboard - some keys just don't work on current MBP models. So much so that Apple has created an official guide on how to correctly clean the keyboard, instead of making a keyboard that didn't need this new feature. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205662 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205662 I really do hope the keyboard issue is resolved, eventually my MBP will have to be updated.
olliej 9y ago
that's clearly silly. the correct thing to do is tether all of the accursed things to the conference room table :D