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> "pushing political agenda" "politics shoved in my face" "don't agree with his politics" Spotify has company created playlists specifically for the travel ban

> "pushing political agenda" "politics shoved in my face" "don't agree with his politics" Spotify has company created playlists specifically for the travel ban and DACA, permanently in the Browse section. Yes, they are pushing their agenda in users' faces. Why not just remove the complaining artists? Why remove the entire playlist? Do you believe that if the political roles were reversed between politician and artist that Spotify would nuke the whole playlist? I sure don't. You may agree with Spotify's politics, but that doesn't invalidate my point.

Jonnax 9y ago
There's two things here. Spotify as a company can push whatever politics they want to. It's a business decision, if it loses them users then it's upto their management to determine whether that was a good option or not. You should accept that Spotify is a "liberal" company either as a stance of the management or as who they see their most engaged users to be. Everything doesn't need to appeal to you. Saying they're shoving their politics in your face is hyperbole. If I read a business focussed newspaper, they're likely to have articles that are anti-climate change. I don't agree but I'm in their house. >Why not just remove the complaining artists? Why remove the entire playlist? https://press.spotify.com/uk/about/ https://press.spotify.com/uk/about/ "Number of playlists: Over 2 billion" 2 billion playlists, why expend the manpower to do that? Paying moderators isn't free. >Do you believe that if the political roles were reversed between politician and artist that Spotify would nuke the whole playlist? I sure don't. Why don't you describe an actual hypothetical scenario? That a politician created a playlist called Liberal Music and some artists complained. Saying that they want nothing to do with the politician and their party. Also at least one artist indicated that they'd contact their publisher to take action. Why wouldn't Spotify just take the playlist down? It's the easy action. Playlists are just lists of songs, the songs are still there.
- fortythirteen 9y ago
  > Spotify as a company can push whatever politics they want to. If you read my other comments in this thread you'll see I agree. > You should accept that Spotify is a "liberal" company either as a stance of the management or as who they see their most engaged users to be. Everything doesn't need to appeal to you. It is a company owned by liberals. Semantics, but important ones. Also you pose a strawman. I never suggested they be obligated to appeal to me, just that their political posturing doesn't and that I'm nearing the point where I will also exercise my free will and leave. > Saying they're shoving their politics in your face is hyperbole. If I read a business focussed newspaper, they're likely to have articles that are anti-climate change. Not a proper comparison. I get a newspaper specifically to read about politics. I don't do the same for a music streaming service, as much as you probably don't want a plumber coming to your house and lecturing you on how Trump's America is fantastic. > Why wouldn't Spotify just take the playlist down? It's the easy action. Why has the decided soft, yet ham-handed, censorship of conservatives become a systemic issue with online services, be it Facebook, Twitter or even Spotify? Why does the far left need even their music streaming service to be an echo chamber?
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > It is a company owned by liberals. Semantics, but important ones. A company is a tool of it's owners, everyone else involved is paid agents of the ownership. The distinction you draw isn't important, it's meaningless.
    - fortythirteen 9y ago
      The company is a tool for streaming music. The politics are extracurricular. When I go to Spotify's site, they sell me music streaming. Their company tagline isn't "Spotify: unlimited music and social justice activism".
      - dragonwriter 9y ago
        > The company is a tool for streaming music You've confused the company (which is a tool for serving the interests of the owners) with the product the company sells (which is a tool for streaming music.).
        fortythirteen 9y ago
        I highly doubt that "political activism" will appear anywhere on Spotify's IPO application.
- EADGBE 9y ago
  > You should accept that Spotify is a "liberal" company What tech company isn't?
  - pixelperfect 9y ago
    Palantir

Jonnax 9y ago

There's two things here. Spotify as a company can push whatever politics they want to. It's a business decision, if it loses them users then it's upto their management to determine whether that was a good option or not. You should accept that Spotify is a "liberal" company either as a stance of the management or as who they see their most engaged users to be. Everything doesn't need to appeal to you. Saying they're shoving their politics in your face is hyperbole. If I read a business focussed newspaper, they're likely to have articles that are anti-climate change. I don't agree but I'm in their house. >Why not just remove the complaining artists? Why remove the entire playlist? https://press.spotify.com/uk/about/ https://press.spotify.com/uk/about/ "Number of playlists: Over 2 billion" 2 billion playlists, why expend the manpower to do that? Paying moderators isn't free. >Do you believe that if the political roles were reversed between politician and artist that Spotify would nuke the whole playlist? I sure don't. Why don't you describe an actual hypothetical scenario? That a politician created a playlist called Liberal Music and some artists complained. Saying that they want nothing to do with the politician and their party. Also at least one artist indicated that they'd contact their publisher to take action. Why wouldn't Spotify just take the playlist down? It's the easy action. Playlists are just lists of songs, the songs are still there.

fortythirteen 9y ago
> Spotify as a company can push whatever politics they want to. If you read my other comments in this thread you'll see I agree. > You should accept that Spotify is a "liberal" company either as a stance of the management or as who they see their most engaged users to be. Everything doesn't need to appeal to you. It is a company owned by liberals. Semantics, but important ones. Also you pose a strawman. I never suggested they be obligated to appeal to me, just that their political posturing doesn't and that I'm nearing the point where I will also exercise my free will and leave. > Saying they're shoving their politics in your face is hyperbole. If I read a business focussed newspaper, they're likely to have articles that are anti-climate change. Not a proper comparison. I get a newspaper specifically to read about politics. I don't do the same for a music streaming service, as much as you probably don't want a plumber coming to your house and lecturing you on how Trump's America is fantastic. > Why wouldn't Spotify just take the playlist down? It's the easy action. Why has the decided soft, yet ham-handed, censorship of conservatives become a systemic issue with online services, be it Facebook, Twitter or even Spotify? Why does the far left need even their music streaming service to be an echo chamber?
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > It is a company owned by liberals. Semantics, but important ones. A company is a tool of it's owners, everyone else involved is paid agents of the ownership. The distinction you draw isn't important, it's meaningless.
  - fortythirteen 9y ago
    The company is a tool for streaming music. The politics are extracurricular. When I go to Spotify's site, they sell me music streaming. Their company tagline isn't "Spotify: unlimited music and social justice activism".
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > The company is a tool for streaming music You've confused the company (which is a tool for serving the interests of the owners) with the product the company sells (which is a tool for streaming music.).
      - fortythirteen 9y ago
        I highly doubt that "political activism" will appear anywhere on Spotify's IPO application.
EADGBE 9y ago
> You should accept that Spotify is a "liberal" company What tech company isn't?
- pixelperfect 9y ago
  Palantir