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Its hard to see the purpose of this...is it art-pop? live art? as if the "am i OK?" video isnt bone-chillingly Orwellian enough, theres a mind boggling 34 seco

Its hard to see the purpose of this...is it art-pop? live art? as if the "am i OK?" video isnt bone-chillingly Orwellian enough, theres a mind boggling 34 second video from "Poppy" on how to properly load a handgun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-B7KRjByzI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-B7KRjByzI im sure David Lynch is kicking himself for not thinking of this idea first.

pluma 9y ago
I'm not sure whether it's a language/culture thing but Poppy's voice seems really unpleasant to me. It reminds me of Japanese anime characters, more age-play than feminine. The jarringly meditative background music aside, her videos also seem reminiscent of the naive child-like alien/clone/orphan trope often found in anime. It seems like she's more of a Western adaption of the Japanese idol/vocaloid trends than a genuinely novel phenomenon.
- acobster 9y ago
  Clearly there are elements that we're lifted from anime tropes, including the age-play suggestive voice and costume, but I think what's novel about this is the format of the presentation. Poppy's not just a character that exists in a fictional setting, she's more of a persona, interacting with the real world and gaining real followers. She's using her platform - not just social media but the platform of fame itself - to make her statement. I'm not entirely clear on what that statement is, but that's kind of what I love about it.
  - pmlnr 9y ago
    > I'm not entirely clear on what that statement is, but that's kind of what I love about it. That summarises the current state of social media way too well. I miss meaningful manifestos, people actually standing up for a belief, instead of candy coloured mist of vague promises that can be retrofitted when needed.
    - narrator 9y ago
      People with meaningful manifestos get demonetized.
      - wozz 9y ago
        or fired!
  - pluma 9y ago
    That's why I mentioned idols. Japanese girl bands especially, but there are also "models" who are real woman with entirely constructed personas. It's superficially similar to the regular "casting" celebrities in places like the US (e.g. the obsession about Britney Spears being a virgin when she was dating Justin Timberlake in real life) but it seems like the Western version is more built around a real person and their life to some degree whereas in the Japanese version the person is almost entirely reduced to an actress playing a role in an entirely fictional life. I'm guessing Poppy is an art project as she doesn't really seem to be selling anything (except maybe her songs?) but I too find it hard to discern any statement in her performance. But maybe that's the point.
- Noos 9y ago
  I'm not sure. All the anime stuff at least has some kind of warmth to it, but Poppy feels so robotic as to be eerie. Even Miku has personality to her, Poppy feels the exact opposite, to the point it grates and burns on your ears.
tempodox 9y ago
“Today, we're using hollow-point bullets” I'm full of anticipation for what's on the agenda tomorrow.
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pjc50 9y ago
What is the purpose of posting videos to youtube? For some people, it's about getting paid. That results in producing not "art" but "content". The only valid test for content is whether it gets hits or not. Poppy's most popular video is "I'm poppy", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCXxqiTjqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCXxqiTjqE , which I suspect is popular with people who like ASMR. Do you like female-voiced plosive sounds? Do you really like them? Enough people do that this video has 14m views. She has a slightly more conventional music career for which the weird videos are promotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_(singer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_(singer) The whole thing is very Idoru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru
pmlnr 9y ago
The sounds in this video make me extremely uneasy, disoriented, and sort of wanting to make it stop. I believe that's on purpose, but I'm genuinely curious if there are other type of people who, unlike me, find it pleasing.
- IntronExon 9y ago
  I get the same feelings with ASMR videos, and I’m thinking that her style is close to that. I find the feeling inspired by both to be... revolting. Lots of people see: to derive an almost sensual pleasure from ASMR though, so I’d guess the sensation is pleasing to them.

pluma 9y ago

I'm not sure whether it's a language/culture thing but Poppy's voice seems really unpleasant to me. It reminds me of Japanese anime characters, more age-play than feminine. The jarringly meditative background music aside, her videos also seem reminiscent of the naive child-like alien/clone/orphan trope often found in anime. It seems like she's more of a Western adaption of the Japanese idol/vocaloid trends than a genuinely novel phenomenon.

acobster 9y ago
Clearly there are elements that we're lifted from anime tropes, including the age-play suggestive voice and costume, but I think what's novel about this is the format of the presentation. Poppy's not just a character that exists in a fictional setting, she's more of a persona, interacting with the real world and gaining real followers. She's using her platform - not just social media but the platform of fame itself - to make her statement. I'm not entirely clear on what that statement is, but that's kind of what I love about it.
- pmlnr 9y ago
  > I'm not entirely clear on what that statement is, but that's kind of what I love about it. That summarises the current state of social media way too well. I miss meaningful manifestos, people actually standing up for a belief, instead of candy coloured mist of vague promises that can be retrofitted when needed.
  - narrator 9y ago
    People with meaningful manifestos get demonetized.
    - wozz 9y ago
      or fired!
- pluma 9y ago
  That's why I mentioned idols. Japanese girl bands especially, but there are also "models" who are real woman with entirely constructed personas. It's superficially similar to the regular "casting" celebrities in places like the US (e.g. the obsession about Britney Spears being a virgin when she was dating Justin Timberlake in real life) but it seems like the Western version is more built around a real person and their life to some degree whereas in the Japanese version the person is almost entirely reduced to an actress playing a role in an entirely fictional life. I'm guessing Poppy is an art project as she doesn't really seem to be selling anything (except maybe her songs?) but I too find it hard to discern any statement in her performance. But maybe that's the point.
Noos 9y ago
I'm not sure. All the anime stuff at least has some kind of warmth to it, but Poppy feels so robotic as to be eerie. Even Miku has personality to her, Poppy feels the exact opposite, to the point it grates and burns on your ears.

tempodox 9y ago

“Today, we're using hollow-point bullets” I'm full of anticipation for what's on the agenda tomorrow.

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pjc50 9y ago

What is the purpose of posting videos to youtube? For some people, it's about getting paid. That results in producing not "art" but "content". The only valid test for content is whether it gets hits or not. Poppy's most popular video is "I'm poppy", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCXxqiTjqE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCXxqiTjqE , which I suspect is popular with people who like ASMR. Do you like female-voiced plosive sounds? Do you really like them? Enough people do that this video has 14m views. She has a slightly more conventional music career for which the weird videos are promotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_(singer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_(singer) The whole thing is very Idoru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru

pmlnr 9y ago

The sounds in this video make me extremely uneasy, disoriented, and sort of wanting to make it stop. I believe that's on purpose, but I'm genuinely curious if there are other type of people who, unlike me, find it pleasing.

IntronExon 9y ago
I get the same feelings with ASMR videos, and I’m thinking that her style is close to that. I find the feeling inspired by both to be... revolting. Lots of people see: to derive an almost sensual pleasure from ASMR though, so I’d guess the sensation is pleasing to them.