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Don't get me wrong - as I've stated elsewhere on here, I don't like Apple Music and it annoys me greatly. But Apple Music is only usable with an optional subsc

Don't get me wrong - as I've stated elsewhere on here, I don't like Apple Music and it annoys me greatly. But Apple Music is only usable with an optional subscription payment and can easily be uninstalled (pseudo-uninstalled) from an iPhone. It does integrate with Siri, which other music services cannot do, and it streams music on the Apple Watch, which other music services cannot (or will not) do. But it's not essential to the function of the phone. And the iPhone has a 30-40% market share or less on unit sales (depending on where you are). MS was punished for including Internet Explorer for free and then tying it into the innards of the OS so it could not be removed. And Windows had an 80-90% market share at the time.

qwerty456127 9y ago
> It does integrate with Siri, which other music services cannot do, and it streams music on the Apple Watch, which other music services cannot (or will not) do. Any idea why? I think they would probably add this if Apple would provide a reasonable way to. Does anybody know if Siri and Apple Watch expose nice APIs that would let you integrate your iPhone app with them? > And the iPhone has a 30-40% market share or less on unit sales (depending on where you are). Although the iPhone-vs-Android comparison can seem to be in favour of Android, Android means many independent manufacturers competing and much more free market for the apps. No single phone manufacturer but Apple has such a market share, having 30-40-50% of the market under unconditional control of a single company means a way more of actual power and commercial value per percent for them than if it was about shares of multiple companies running same technologies summed. Here ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16279975 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16279975 ) is what I have been told in a neighbour thread: "With the iOS market share hovering slightly below 50% in the US, it's iMessage that is the main messenger, at least where I live... I don't use Whatsapp nor was I ever invited by someone to use it, but I heard it's basically the iMessage equivalent in the EU and in other places where the iOS market share is lower." I don't mean to argue nor am I a proponent of regulations. Just sharing thoughts. Thank you for the answer.
- rahoulb 9y ago
  I see no reason for Apple not to allow music access for Siri - they have opened it up to other categories of app but have left music out and the only reason I can think of it to prevent competition. I've heard conflicting reports about the state of the streaming APIs on the Apple Watch. Certainly, it's Apple's standard playbook to test an API with their internal products first before releasing it to others, and as the Apple Watch 3 is only a few months old, I will give them the benefit of the doubt here. I'm not sure about your point on market-share. Apple may be the biggest single phone manufacturer, but they still can't bully people the way Microsoft did, because 60-70% of people aren't using them - it's platform share that counts here. (And yes, the majority of my contacts are on iPhones, but when it comes to group messaging I use WhatsApp because that's the only way I can be sure not to leave anyone out).

qwerty456127 9y ago

> It does integrate with Siri, which other music services cannot do, and it streams music on the Apple Watch, which other music services cannot (or will not) do. Any idea why? I think they would probably add this if Apple would provide a reasonable way to. Does anybody know if Siri and Apple Watch expose nice APIs that would let you integrate your iPhone app with them? > And the iPhone has a 30-40% market share or less on unit sales (depending on where you are). Although the iPhone-vs-Android comparison can seem to be in favour of Android, Android means many independent manufacturers competing and much more free market for the apps. No single phone manufacturer but Apple has such a market share, having 30-40-50% of the market under unconditional control of a single company means a way more of actual power and commercial value per percent for them than if it was about shares of multiple companies running same technologies summed. Here ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16279975 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16279975 ) is what I have been told in a neighbour thread: "With the iOS market share hovering slightly below 50% in the US, it's iMessage that is the main messenger, at least where I live... I don't use Whatsapp nor was I ever invited by someone to use it, but I heard it's basically the iMessage equivalent in the EU and in other places where the iOS market share is lower." I don't mean to argue nor am I a proponent of regulations. Just sharing thoughts. Thank you for the answer.

rahoulb 9y ago
I see no reason for Apple not to allow music access for Siri - they have opened it up to other categories of app but have left music out and the only reason I can think of it to prevent competition. I've heard conflicting reports about the state of the streaming APIs on the Apple Watch. Certainly, it's Apple's standard playbook to test an API with their internal products first before releasing it to others, and as the Apple Watch 3 is only a few months old, I will give them the benefit of the doubt here. I'm not sure about your point on market-share. Apple may be the biggest single phone manufacturer, but they still can't bully people the way Microsoft did, because 60-70% of people aren't using them - it's platform share that counts here. (And yes, the majority of my contacts are on iPhones, but when it comes to group messaging I use WhatsApp because that's the only way I can be sure not to leave anyone out).