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German autobahn traffic would like a word with you. Drivers over there are pretty good to find out their reasonable speed. There's a ton of respect between driv

by mantas 9y ago

German autobahn traffic would like a word with you. Drivers over there are pretty good to find out their reasonable speed. There's a ton of respect between drivers too. Probably the most respectful driving culture I drove at.

konschubert 9y ago
Aside from the fact that the parent was talking about city streets, not freeways... I find Autobahn driving very stressful. Crossing the border into Switzerland, which has a general speed limit, traveling becomes much more enjoyable.
- mantas 9y ago
  I was talking about his general sentiment that people don’t consider others and have to be beaten into submission. Out of countries I drive at, Germany is least stressful. Especially because drivers seem to be very considerate of others. Including, if not more, on unlimited autobahn sections. Haven’t driven in Switzerland yet though.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    > I was talking about his general sentiment that people don’t consider others and have to be beaten into submission. It's not that they don't consider others (though there are plenty of angry drivers out there). It's that they're assuming they know better than traffic engineers and legislators. That assumption is full of hubris, and even if sometimes correct, it makes it more difficult for people setting the limits to do global optimization. But yes, ultimately it is - maybe unintentionally - not considering other users of the road system.
    - CamperBob2 9y ago
      It's that they're assuming they know better than traffic engineers and legislators I think it's very safe to say I know better than legislators who've never been within hundreds of miles of the road I'm driving on. It may not be as safe to say I know better than the engineers, but the engineers' opinions are of very little interest to the legislators.

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German autobahn traffic would like a word with you. Drivers over there are pretty good to find out their reasonable speed. There's a ton of respect between driv

by mantas 9y ago

konschubert 9y ago
Aside from the fact that the parent was talking about city streets, not freeways... I find Autobahn driving very stressful. Crossing the border into Switzerland, which has a general speed limit, traveling becomes much more enjoyable.
- mantas 9y ago
  I was talking about his general sentiment that people don’t consider others and have to be beaten into submission. Out of countries I drive at, Germany is least stressful. Especially because drivers seem to be very considerate of others. Including, if not more, on unlimited autobahn sections. Haven’t driven in Switzerland yet though.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    > I was talking about his general sentiment that people don’t consider others and have to be beaten into submission. It's not that they don't consider others (though there are plenty of angry drivers out there). It's that they're assuming they know better than traffic engineers and legislators. That assumption is full of hubris, and even if sometimes correct, it makes it more difficult for people setting the limits to do global optimization. But yes, ultimately it is - maybe unintentionally - not considering other users of the road system.
    - CamperBob2 9y ago
      It's that they're assuming they know better than traffic engineers and legislators I think it's very safe to say I know better than legislators who've never been within hundreds of miles of the road I'm driving on. It may not be as safe to say I know better than the engineers, but the engineers' opinions are of very little interest to the legislators.