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Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. Work is to do work and in the US you often times do not even know who the pe

Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. Work is to do work and in the US you often times do not even know who the person one cube over voted for. Damore shared his views on Reddit without using Google name is fine but at work and multiple times even after told to stop is going to be a problem, imo.

musage 9y ago
> multiple times even after told to stop What does this refer to? Damore shared his views, as well as his arguments, in an internal group devoted to such issues, and there was no issue until it was leaked, and people made a fuss about it. Also see "course of events" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Ch...
rhapsodic 9y ago
>Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. But federal labor law likely does have a problem with his dismissal.
mankash666 9y ago
If Google treated all poiltical discourse within it's walls like it did Damore, there probably wouldn't be an issue. The whole problem is with favoring one type of speech/thought in a militant fashion that violates federal law. And regardless of the law, it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. This article paints a very damaging picture of Google discriminating against white males (Disclaimer: I'm NOT a white male)
- rhcom2 9y ago
  > In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. What? They're only expected to make money.
- nezzle 9y ago
  > it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. I think Amazon disagrees with you. They include this in their job postings: >Amazon is an Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action Employer – Minority / Female / Disability / Veteran / Gender Identity / Sexual Orientation. I don't think you can be both equal opportunity and affirmative action at the same time.
  - mankash666 9y ago
    You've completely misunderstood & mis-represented my viewpoint. Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action IS the law of the land, and that's the same law that forbids setting artificial quotas for ANY group that discriminates against others. For instance, some Google execs called for a 25% minority quota - THAT is discrimination against other groups, especially if the overall statistics in the talent pool/job market make it impossible for the said quota to be fulfilled in a manner compliant with "Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action" For instance, you might want to setup a workforce of coders with a 50-50 Men-Women breakdown. But since STEM graduation rates indicate a Men:Women ratio of 85:15, it is unlikely, if not impossible to construct a 50:50 workforce without willfully discriminating against men. If you now force the entire industry to adopt the 50:50 rule with a 85:15 talent pool to choose from, you're both discriminating AND defying logic/math!! In summary - no corporation can possibly disagree with me for I'm calling for the law to be followed as intended.
rapsey 9y ago
> Work is to do work and in the US you often times do not even know who the person one cube over voted for. Then why do they have diversity training seminars and ask for feedback on the information received? He gave them feedback with his memo. Then he posted it to an internal board. They asked for feedback, wanted a conversation and he provided. Someone else released it to the public. > but at work and multiple times even after told to stop He was told to stop multiple times? Where is this from?
abandonliberty 9y ago
Surprisingly, you're offtopic here - and your votes reflect it. It doesn't seem like you read the article.

musage 9y ago

> multiple times even after told to stop What does this refer to? Damore shared his views, as well as his arguments, in an internal group devoted to such issues, and there was no issue until it was leaked, and people made a fuss about it. Also see "course of events" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Ch...

rhapsodic 9y ago

>Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. But federal labor law likely does have a problem with his dismissal.

mankash666 9y ago

If Google treated all poiltical discourse within it's walls like it did Damore, there probably wouldn't be an issue. The whole problem is with favoring one type of speech/thought in a militant fashion that violates federal law. And regardless of the law, it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. This article paints a very damaging picture of Google discriminating against white males (Disclaimer: I'm NOT a white male)

rhcom2 9y ago
> In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. What? They're only expected to make money.
nezzle 9y ago
> it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. I think Amazon disagrees with you. They include this in their job postings: >Amazon is an Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action Employer – Minority / Female / Disability / Veteran / Gender Identity / Sexual Orientation. I don't think you can be both equal opportunity and affirmative action at the same time.
- mankash666 9y ago
  You've completely misunderstood & mis-represented my viewpoint. Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action IS the law of the land, and that's the same law that forbids setting artificial quotas for ANY group that discriminates against others. For instance, some Google execs called for a 25% minority quota - THAT is discrimination against other groups, especially if the overall statistics in the talent pool/job market make it impossible for the said quota to be fulfilled in a manner compliant with "Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action" For instance, you might want to setup a workforce of coders with a 50-50 Men-Women breakdown. But since STEM graduation rates indicate a Men:Women ratio of 85:15, it is unlikely, if not impossible to construct a 50:50 workforce without willfully discriminating against men. If you now force the entire industry to adopt the 50:50 rule with a 85:15 talent pool to choose from, you're both discriminating AND defying logic/math!! In summary - no corporation can possibly disagree with me for I'm calling for the law to be followed as intended.

rapsey 9y ago

> Work is to do work and in the US you often times do not even know who the person one cube over voted for. Then why do they have diversity training seminars and ask for feedback on the information received? He gave them feedback with his memo. Then he posted it to an internal board. They asked for feedback, wanted a conversation and he provided. Someone else released it to the public. > but at work and multiple times even after told to stop He was told to stop multiple times? Where is this from?

abandonliberty 9y ago

Surprisingly, you're offtopic here - and your votes reflect it. It doesn't seem like you read the article.