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Why would he get a collective employment agreement in the first place? Assuming there is an angle the thelocal.se is trying to hide.

tuukkah 9y ago
The collective agreement is binding to every employer and employee in the field - you can think of it as a per-field minimum wage law.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  That is refreshed every couple years via collective bargaining between companies and unions, with a government representative sitting in as referee.
- nemetroid 9y ago
  This is incorrect. There are many tech companies in Sweden that haven't signed a collective agreement. However, "to obtain a work permit you must [...] have been offered terms of employment that are on par with those set by Swedish collective agreements or which are customary within the occupation or industry" [0] [0]: https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Working-in-Sweden/Employed/Work-permit-requirements.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...
the_mitsuhiko 9y ago
Presumably because he is considered an employee. Happens in Austria for founders who own less than 50% of their company for instance.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  In this instance he may simply have filed for the wrong kind of visa. All in all i have come to wonder if thelocal have some kind of agenda. It seems to be willfully ignorant of laws and customs of the nations it reports on.
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Fronzie 9y ago
According to the Migration Agency: "It is possible to apply to come to Sweden as an entrepreneur and get a residence permit as an entrepreneur, and in those cases different rules apply." More countries have different rules for different kinds of visa. Although this case seems special, immigration might not have the means to dig into the details of all their cases. Then being strict on the rules might be the fairest thing overall.
goty3 9y ago
When applying for a work permit you need to show that you aren't undercutting the local workforce. Having a collective agreement in place is one, probably the easier, way to show that. https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Working-in-Sweden/Employed/Work-permit-requirements.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...
bonzini 9y ago
In Europe many countries have collective employment agreements; for example I am employed under a "commercial" contract. Companies have some leeway on the contract they use (e.g. there is a logistics contact but Amazon Italy uses the same commercial contract as a brick and mortar shop), but they can only improve on what is agreed upon in the national contract, for example by increasing wages above the minimum for your "employment level", adding private health insurance, etc.

tuukkah 9y ago

The collective agreement is binding to every employer and employee in the field - you can think of it as a per-field minimum wage law.

digi_owl 9y ago
That is refreshed every couple years via collective bargaining between companies and unions, with a government representative sitting in as referee.
nemetroid 9y ago
This is incorrect. There are many tech companies in Sweden that haven't signed a collective agreement. However, "to obtain a work permit you must [...] have been offered terms of employment that are on par with those set by Swedish collective agreements or which are customary within the occupation or industry" [0] [0]: https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Working-in-Sweden/Employed/Work-permit-requirements.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...

the_mitsuhiko 9y ago

Presumably because he is considered an employee. Happens in Austria for founders who own less than 50% of their company for instance.

digi_owl 9y ago
In this instance he may simply have filed for the wrong kind of visa. All in all i have come to wonder if thelocal have some kind of agenda. It seems to be willfully ignorant of laws and customs of the nations it reports on.
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Fronzie 9y ago

According to the Migration Agency: "It is possible to apply to come to Sweden as an entrepreneur and get a residence permit as an entrepreneur, and in those cases different rules apply." More countries have different rules for different kinds of visa. Although this case seems special, immigration might not have the means to dig into the details of all their cases. Then being strict on the rules might be the fairest thing overall.

goty3 9y ago

When applying for a work permit you need to show that you aren't undercutting the local workforce. Having a collective agreement in place is one, probably the easier, way to show that. https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Working-in-Sweden/Employed/Work-permit-requirements.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...

bonzini 9y ago

In Europe many countries have collective employment agreements; for example I am employed under a "commercial" contract. Companies have some leeway on the contract they use (e.g. there is a logistics contact but Amazon Italy uses the same commercial contract as a brick and mortar shop), but they can only improve on what is agreed upon in the national contract, for example by increasing wages above the minimum for your "employment level", adding private health insurance, etc.