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Lawsuit Exposes Internet Giant’s Internal Culture of Intolerance

38 points by YouAreGreat 9y ago

rhapsodic 9y ago
It' frightening to learn how many hateful, vindictive people have settled into positions of power at one of the most powerful companies in the world.
ben_jones 9y ago
These two statements struck me: > At a “Diversity Team Kickoff” event, a director announced plans “to freeze headcount so that teams could find diversity candidates to help fill the empty roles,” > Next time you get invited to speak at a conference, especially if you’re a white male – ask the organizer to confirm you’re the only white male on the panel / in the speaker lineup. If not, say you are honored, but must decline, and give the reason. And because you are at Google, guess what – they’re going to change the panel for you.
- xkcd-sucks 9y ago
  Sounds like a really good tutorial on leveraging your privilege to marginalize someone
- apta 9y ago
  Seems to be the definition of racism/sexism.
jacksmith21006 9y ago
Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. Work is to do work and in the US you often times do not even know who the person one cube over voted for. Damore shared his views on Reddit without using Google name is fine but at work and multiple times even after told to stop is going to be a problem, imo.
- musage 9y ago
  > multiple times even after told to stop What does this refer to? Damore shared his views, as well as his arguments, in an internal group devoted to such issues, and there was no issue until it was leaked, and people made a fuss about it. Also see "course of events" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Ch...
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  >Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. But federal labor law likely does have a problem with his dismissal.
- mankash666 9y ago
  If Google treated all poiltical discourse within it's walls like it did Damore, there probably wouldn't be an issue. The whole problem is with favoring one type of speech/thought in a militant fashion that violates federal law. And regardless of the law, it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. This article paints a very damaging picture of Google discriminating against white males (Disclaimer: I'm NOT a white male)
  - rhcom2 9y ago
    > In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. What? They're only expected to make money.
  - nezzle 9y ago
    > it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. I think Amazon disagrees with you. They include this in their job postings: >Amazon is an Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action Employer – Minority / Female / Disability / Veteran / Gender Identity / Sexual Orientation. I don't think you can be both equal opportunity and affirmative action at the same time.
    - mankash666 9y ago
gorbachev 9y ago
The comments on that article remind me why I should never read comments on online articles.
qbaqbaqba 9y ago
Oh no, another interesting news concerning google getting immediately flagged. Googlers, please don't be evil, at least provide your motives.
- pentae 9y ago
  The motive seems pretty clear - cover up, accuse, and be a hypocrite.
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  >Oh no, another interesting news concerning google getting immediately flagged. Googlers, please don't be evil, at least provide your motives. It may not be Googlers flagging this. Any issues where leftists are consistently losing the argument tend to get flagged and buried on HN.
rhapsodic 9y ago
Damore's lawsuit is a huge story in the tech industry, yet, for some reason, stories about it always get flagged on HN.

38 points by YouAreGreat 9y ago

It' frightening to learn how many hateful, vindictive people have settled into positions of power at one of the most powerful companies in the world.

ben_jones 9y ago

These two statements struck me: > At a “Diversity Team Kickoff” event, a director announced plans “to freeze headcount so that teams could find diversity candidates to help fill the empty roles,” > Next time you get invited to speak at a conference, especially if you’re a white male – ask the organizer to confirm you’re the only white male on the panel / in the speaker lineup. If not, say you are honored, but must decline, and give the reason. And because you are at Google, guess what – they’re going to change the panel for you.

xkcd-sucks 9y ago
Sounds like a really good tutorial on leveraging your privilege to marginalize someone
apta 9y ago
Seems to be the definition of racism/sexism.

jacksmith21006 9y ago

Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. Work is to do work and in the US you often times do not even know who the person one cube over voted for. Damore shared his views on Reddit without using Google name is fine but at work and multiple times even after told to stop is going to be a problem, imo.

musage 9y ago
> multiple times even after told to stop What does this refer to? Damore shared his views, as well as his arguments, in an internal group devoted to such issues, and there was no issue until it was leaked, and people made a fuss about it. Also see "course of events" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Ch...
rhapsodic 9y ago
>Maybe an unpopular view on HN but I have no problem with Google letting Damore go. But federal labor law likely does have a problem with his dismissal.
mankash666 9y ago
If Google treated all poiltical discourse within it's walls like it did Damore, there probably wouldn't be an issue. The whole problem is with favoring one type of speech/thought in a militant fashion that violates federal law. And regardless of the law, it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. This article paints a very damaging picture of Google discriminating against white males (Disclaimer: I'm NOT a white male)
- rhcom2 9y ago
  > In 2018, companies are expected to do the right thing. What? They're only expected to make money.
- nezzle 9y ago
  > it's UNETHICAL to discriminate in the name of diversity. I think Amazon disagrees with you. They include this in their job postings: >Amazon is an Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action Employer – Minority / Female / Disability / Veteran / Gender Identity / Sexual Orientation. I don't think you can be both equal opportunity and affirmative action at the same time.
  - mankash666 9y ago

gorbachev 9y ago

The comments on that article remind me why I should never read comments on online articles.

qbaqbaqba 9y ago

Oh no, another interesting news concerning google getting immediately flagged. Googlers, please don't be evil, at least provide your motives.

pentae 9y ago
The motive seems pretty clear - cover up, accuse, and be a hypocrite.
rhapsodic 9y ago
>Oh no, another interesting news concerning google getting immediately flagged. Googlers, please don't be evil, at least provide your motives. It may not be Googlers flagging this. Any issues where leftists are consistently losing the argument tend to get flagged and buried on HN.

rhapsodic 9y ago

Damore's lawsuit is a huge story in the tech industry, yet, for some reason, stories about it always get flagged on HN.